ATP Locomotive Workshop (Bays 1 - 4a)

Eastern SSDA 8517: Bay 1.Davy Press, The Oil furnace used to heat our blooms, where to or stay? should be left as is.2:No worries move O/H crane towards Centre Road.3.the 5 ton steel billet,and Porter bars, perfect location, and small forged slabs, leave as is, The essential Porter bars Tool Racks, are in the original location, we don't want destroy the Fabric, these are World Rated Railway Industrial Workshops, I know an ex. member Smithsonian Inst. world recognised shops, significant to the period/era, could match the world in locomotive manufacture.Bay 1: The Presses Expensive Die Blocks, require area near the Press. This 1925 Monolith a key item, overpowering to a visitor. thus Bay 1: Granted some seating area, BUT: Dirt floor zone essential, Mezzanine floor I'm okay with. BUT don't destroy the Antiquity, This was. heavy industrial forge shop circa 1887! Having traveled overseas these shops are World Class, The Industrial fabric essential, we are on the World Stage.Agree Bay 2 Dirt floors, as it always was, had no major fires as Bitumen, Wood catch fire, Cement explode.The significant importance of these World Rated shops essential to the character, the heritage, Victorian era. The existanece of the Blacksmiths highly essential after all opened in 1887, and celebrated 2017 :130 years, creates a true world patina, respect this salient view. Proud Australians! Cultural tourism a key item, Conferences, Talks, Visitors, Eveleigh not reall a Museum, in the true sense BUT under that old Wrought Iron roof, her stories inspire, educate, and she served in Peace time and The Great ,War 1 WW 2: Built Tanks, built 25 lb. Shells, Bren Gun, 25 lb. guns.The originator of Australia's greatest Strike of 1917! Trained 300 Apprentices p.a. employed her peak 7,000; Constructed 185 Brand new steam locos, maintained 1,200 steam locomotives, helped repair Sydney Trams, Manufactured 33,000 Coil springs, 24,000. Leaf springs p.a. As serving Tour Guide now 15 years, so many great comments from the public re Eveleighs role comes through. To Bay2: agree many old machines the top end of the bay were never located there, However careful consideration to their new location I suggest Bay 9-10, along with other units spread all around various bays. locate within Bays 9 & 10! good Signage essential, six years ago I told the Management I would get misplaced going from bay to bay, Thankfully Large Yellow Cubes stated Bay numbers. Richard produced a number of Forging Large format signs, Simply view and understand, That's how we forged an item, or Fire welded a component, Thus Readable, Educational, Understandable to the visitor, a,h that's how it was made/Forged. they should be incorporated in special proposed rooms as read. Then spot lighted, as an ex. educator ATP should respect such basic rules.Bay 2: my period had three times the number of Steam Hammers, only 4, exist. The relevant racks of hand and steam hammer tools/stages Hammers, should be better organised, in fact it's very disorganised. Finally it's essential to get things correctly organised, Eveleigh a key Visitor centre, numerous Conferences, Displays, University graduates should view this "Icon" so much already has been destroyed, my first visit at 16 yr.old seen "Rows and rows of line shafting leather belts whizzing around, powering over 5,000 Lathes/Milling machines, Jig Borers, Wheel Lathes, etc. Devastating it's all gone, I thought we were proud Australians?

Dear Sir/ Madam,

Re: Mirvac DAs Locomotive Workshops: SSDA 8517 and SSDA8449
Attention: Annie Leung

In my submission I would ask the Department when determining these applications to take into account in its assessment and formulation of Development Consent Conditions the following conclusions I have drawn from my examination of the DAs.

I advise that this is a personal submission and I have read and agree to the terms of the privacy statement as required.

Issues which should be included in Conditions of Development Consent
* The Development Consent not be granted until an independent audit commissioned by the Department of Planning and Environment examines and reports on how the Mirvac DAs conform to all the heritage plans and covenants applying to Eveleigh Railway Workshops.
* The Development Consent includes conditions to ensure Bays 1 and 2 are exclusively devoted to heritage interpretation.
* The concepts for a Workers Wall and Foundry Interpretation are included in the Heritage Interpretation Strategy.
* Any Development Consent include a condition requiring the moveable heritage collection be kept intact within the Workshop and that the issues surrounding the collection be the subject of investigation by an independent expert familiar with the collection.
* The DAs not be allowed to proceed with plans for a travelator, loading bay and multiple commercial/retail signages as they will severely impact on the industrial character of the Workshop buildings.
* The Heritage Interpretation Strategy be updated to:
o a) reinsert many of those interpretation strategies removed from the 2012 interpretation plan;
o b)include a section on the 1917 Great Strike which originated at Eveleigh Locomotive Workshops and the Centenary of which has been widely celebrated this year; and
o c) change in custodianship of the "Eveleigh Stories" Collection directly to the Workshops

Yours Sincerely,

Michael Walker
51 Mort Street
Surry Hills

Dear Sir/ Madam,

Re: Mirvac DAs Locomotive Workshops: SSDA 8517 and SSDA8449
Attention: Annie Leung

In my submission I would ask the Department when determining these applications to take into account in its assessment and formulation of Development Consent Conditions the following conclusions I have drawn from my examination of the DAs.

I advise that this is a personal submission and I have read and agree to the terms of the privacy statement as required.

Issues which should be included in Conditions of Development Consent
The Development Consent not be granted until an independent audit commissioned by the Department of Planning and Environment examines and reports on how the Mirvac DAs conform to all the heritage plans and covenants applying to Eveleigh Railway Workshops.
The Development Consent includes conditions to ensure Bays 1 and 2 are exclusively devoted to heritage interpretation.
The concepts for a Workers Wall and Foundry Interpretation are included in the Heritage Interpretation Strategy.
Any Development Consent include a condition requiring the moveable heritage collection be kept intact within the Workshop and that the issues surrounding the collection be the subject of investigation by an independent expert familiar with the collection.
The DAs not be allowed to proceed with plans for a travelator, loading bay and multiple commercial/retail signages as they will severely impact on the industrial character of the Workshop buildings.
The Heritage Interpretation Strategy be updated to:
a) reinsert many of those interpretation strategies removed from the 2012 interpretation plan;
b)include a section on the 1917 Great Strike which originated at Eveleigh Locomotive Workshops and the Centenary of which has been widely celebrated this year; and
c) change in custodianship of the "Eveleigh Stories" Collection directly to the Workshops
Yours Sincerely,
John Gain

Dear Sir/ Madam,

Re: Mirvac DAs Locomotive Workshops: SSDA 8517 and SSDA8449
Attention: Annie Leung

In my submission I would ask the Department when determining these applications to take into account in its assessment and formulation of Development Consent Conditions the following conclusions I have drawn from my examination of the DAs.

I advise that this is a personal submission and I have read and agree to the terms of the privacy statement as required.

Issues which should be included in Conditions of Development Consent
The Development Consent not be granted until an independent audit commissioned by the Department of Planning and Environment examines and reports on how the Mirvac DAs conform to all the heritage plans and covenants applying to Eveleigh Railway Workshops.
The Development Consent includes conditions to ensure Bays 1 and 2 are exclusively devoted to heritage interpretation.
The concepts for a Workers Wall and Foundry Interpretation are included in the Heritage Interpretation Strategy.
Any Development Consent include a condition requiring the moveable heritage collection be kept intact within the Workshop and that the issues surrounding the collection be the subject of investigation by an independent expert familiar with the collection.
The DAs not be allowed to proceed with plans for a travelator, loading bay and multiple commercial/retail signages as they will severely impact on the industrial character of the Workshop buildings.
The Heritage Interpretation Strategy be updated to:
a) reinsert many of those interpretation strategies removed from the 2012 interpretation plan;
b)include a section on the 1917 Great Strike which originated at Eveleigh Locomotive Workshops and the Centenary of which has been widely celebrated this year; and
c) change in custodianship of the "Eveleigh Stories" Collection directly to the Workshops
Yours Sincerely,

Dear Sir/ Madam,

Re: Mirvac DAs Locomotive Workshops: SSDA 8517 and SSDA8449

Attention: Annie Leung

In my submission I would ask the Department when determining these applications to take into account in its assessment and formulation of Development Consent Conditions the following conclusions I have drawn from my examination of the DAs.

I advise that this is a personal submission and I have read and agree to the terms of the privacy statement as required.

Issues which should be included in Conditions of Development

Consent
The Development Consent not be granted until an independent audit commissioned by the Department of Planning and Environment examines and reports on how the Mirvac DAs conform to all the heritage plans and covenants applying to Eveleigh Railway Workshops.

The Development Consent includes conditions to ensure Bays 1 and 2 are exclusively devoted to heritage interpretation.
The concepts for a Workers Wall and Foundry Interpretation are included in the Heritage Interpretation Strategy.
Any Development Consent include a condition requiring the moveable heritage collection be kept intact within the Workshop and that the issues surrounding the collection be the subject of investigation by an independent expert familiar with the collection.

The DAs not be allowed to proceed with plans for a travelator, loading bay and multiple commercial/retail signages as they will severely impact on the industrial character of the Workshop buildings.

The Heritage Interpretation Strategy be updated to:
a) reinsert many of those interpretation strategies removed from the 2012 interpretation plan;
b)include a section on the 1917 Great Strike which originated at Eveleigh Locomotive Workshops and the Centenary of which has been widely celebrated this year; and
c) change in custodianship of the "Eveleigh Stories" Collection directly to the Workshops

Yours Sincerely,
Shannen Potter

Dear Sir/ Madam,

Re: Mirvac DAs Locomotive Workshops: SSDA 8517 and SSDA8449
Attention: Annie Leung

In my submission I would ask the Department when determining these applications to take into account in its assessment and formulation of Development Consent Conditions the following conclusions I have drawn from my examination of the DAs.

I advise that this is a personal submission and I have read and agree to the terms of the privacy statement as required.

Issues which should be included in Conditions of Development Consent
* The Development Consent not be granted until an independent audit commissioned by the Department of Planning and Environment examines and reports on how the Mirvac DAs conform to all the heritage plans and covenants applying to Eveleigh Railway Workshops.
* The Development Consent includes conditions to ensure Bays 1 and 2 are exclusively devoted to heritage interpretation.
* The concepts for a Workers Wall and Foundry Interpretation are included in the Heritage Interpretation Strategy.
* Any Development Consent include a condition requiring the moveable heritage collection be kept intact within the Workshop and that the issues surrounding the collection be the subject of investigation by an independent expert familiar with the collection.
* The DAs not be allowed to proceed with plans for a travelator, loading bay and multiple commercial/retail signages as they will severely impact on the industrial character of the Workshop buildings.
* The Heritage Interpretation Strategy be updated to:
o a) reinsert many of those interpretation strategies removed from the 2012 interpretation plan;
o b)include a section on the 1917 Great Strike which originated at Eveleigh Locomotive Workshops and the Centenary of which has been widely celebrated this year; and
o c) change in custodianship of the "Eveleigh Stories" Collection directly to the Workshops
Yours Sincerely,
Mitchell Wilson

Dear Sir/ Madam,

Re: Mirvac DAs Locomotive Workshops: SSDA 8517 and SSDA8449
Attention: Annie Leung

In my submission I would ask the Department when determining these applications to take into account in its assessment and formulation of Development Consent Conditions the following conclusions I have drawn from my examination of the DAs.

I advise that this is a personal submission and I have read and agree to the terms of the privacy statement as required.

Issues which should be included in Conditions of Development Consent
The Development Consent not be granted until an independent audit commissioned by the Department of Planning and Environment examines and reports on how the Mirvac DAs conform to all the heritage plans and covenants applying to Eveleigh Railway Workshops.
The Development Consent includes conditions to ensure Bays 1 and 2 are exclusively devoted to heritage interpretation.
The concepts for a Workers Wall and Foundry Interpretation are included in the Heritage Interpretation Strategy.
Any Development Consent include a condition requiring the moveable heritage collection be kept intact within the Workshop and that the issues surrounding the collection be the subject of investigation by an independent expert familiar with the collection.
The DAs not be allowed to proceed with plans for a travelator, loading bay and multiple commercial/retail signages as they will severely impact on the industrial character of the Workshop buildings.
The Heritage Interpretation Strategy be updated to:
a) reinsert many of those interpretation strategies removed from the 2012 interpretation plan;
b)include a section on the 1917 Great Strike which originated at Eveleigh Locomotive Workshops and the Centenary of which has been widely celebrated this year; and
c) change in custodianship of the "Eveleigh Stories" Collection directly to the Workshops
Yours Sincerely,
Marilyn Jervis

Dear Sir/ Madam,

Attention: Ms Annie Leung

Re: Mirvac DAs Locomotive Workshops: SSDA 8517 and SSDA8449

I ask that, when considering these applications for development consent, the Department take into account in its assessment and formulation of Development Consent Conditions the following matters drawn from my consultation with other concerned citizens and our examination of the DAs.

I advise that this is a personal submission and I have read and agree to the terms of the privacy statement as required.

I submit that:
* Development Consent not be granted until an independent audit commissioned by the Department of Planning and Environment examines and reports on how the proposed development conforms with all the heritage plans and covenants applying to Eveleigh Railway Workshops;
* The Development Consent should include conditions to ensure that Bays 1 and 2 are exclusively devoted to heritage interpretation;
* The concepts for a Workers Wall and Foundry Interpretation are included in the Heritage Interpretation Strategy;
* Any Development Consent include a condition requiring the moveable heritage collection be kept intact within the Workshop and that the issues surrounding the collection be the subject of investigation and formal report by an independent expert familiar with the collection;
* The proposed development should not be allowed to proceed with plans for a travelator, loading bay and multiple commercial and retail signs, as, in my opinion, they will severely impact on the industrial heritage character of the Workshop buildings; and,
* The Heritage Interpretation Strategy for the site be updated to:
+ a) reinsert many of those interpretation strategies removed from the 2012 interpretation plan;
+ b) include a section on the 1917 Great Strike which originated at Eveleigh Locomotive Workshops, the Centenary of which has been widely celebrated this year; and
+ c) change custody of the "Eveleigh Stories" Collection directly to the Workshops.

Yours sincerely,

Robert Irvine
PO Box 112
ENMORE NSW 2042

Dear Sir/ Madam,

Re: Mirvac DAs Locomotive Workshops: SSDA 8517 and SSDA8449
Attention: Annie Leung

In my submission I would ask the Department when determining these applications to take into account in its assessment and formulation of Development Consent Conditions the following conclusions I have drawn from my examination of the DAs.

I advise that this is a personal submission and I have read and agree to the terms of the privacy statement as required.

Issues which should be included in Conditions of Development Consent
The Development Consent not be granted until an independent audit commissioned by the Department of Planning and Environment examines and reports on how the Mirvac DAs conform to all the heritage plans and covenants applying to Eveleigh Railway Workshops.
The Development Consent includes conditions to ensure Bays 1 and 2 are exclusively devoted to heritage interpretation.
The concepts for a Workers Wall and Foundry Interpretation are included in the Heritage Interpretation Strategy.
Any Development Consent include a condition requiring the moveable heritage collection be kept intact within the Workshop and that the issues surrounding the collection be the subject of investigation by an independent expert familiar with the collection.
The DAs not be allowed to proceed with plans for a travelator, loading bay and multiple commercial/retail signages as they will severely impact on the industrial character of the Workshop buildings.
The Heritage Interpretation Strategy be updated to:
a) reinsert many of those interpretation strategies removed from the 2012 interpretation plan;
b)include a section on the 1917 Great Strike which originated at Eveleigh Locomotive Workshops and the Centenary of which has been widely celebrated this year; and
c) change in custodianship of the "Eveleigh Stories" Collection directly to the Workshops
Yours Sincerely,
John Moran

Dear Sir/ Madam,

Re: Mirvac DAs Locomotive Workshops: SSDA 8517 and SSDA8449
Attention: Annie Leung

In my submission I would ask the Department when determining these applications to take into account in its assessment and formulation of Development Consent Conditions the following conclusions I have drawn from my examination of the DAs.

I advise that this is a personal submission and I have read and agree to the terms of the privacy statement as required.

Issues which should be included in Conditions of Development Consent
The Development Consent not be granted until an independent audit commissioned by the Department of Planning and Environment examines and reports on how the Mirvac DAs conform to all the heritage plans and covenants applying to Eveleigh Railway Workshops.
The Development Consent includes conditions to ensure Bays 1 and 2 are exclusively devoted to heritage interpretation.
The concepts for a Workers Wall and Foundry Interpretation are included in the Heritage Interpretation Strategy.
Any Development Consent include a condition requiring the moveable heritage collection be kept intact within the Workshop and that the issues surrounding the collection be the subject of investigation by an independent expert familiar with the collection.
The DAs not be allowed to proceed with plans for a travelator, loading bay and multiple commercial/retail signages as they will severely impact on the industrial character of the Workshop buildings.
The Heritage Interpretation Strategy be updated to:
a) reinsert many of those interpretation strategies removed from the 2012 interpretation plan;
b)include a section on the 1917 Great Strike which originated at Eveleigh Locomotive Workshops and the Centenary of which has been widely celebrated this year; and
c) change in custodianship of the "Eveleigh Stories" Collection directly to the Workshops

In 1995 I was concerned re the destruction of our Iconic Eveleigh Railway Workshops, an ex. Tradesman, helped PHM, the STARPS group. RTM of Thirlmere, & Valley Hts.wrote book re Eveleigh. Then a member Smithsonian, Natl.Trust & RAHS, highly concerned the loss of Australian Industrial Pioneering, Rail. Manufacture, Bays 1&2: shall totally loose its heritage. A super market, accessibility to & from highly Dangerous. The Davy Press shall. Look like a circus, not a place where I worked, sweated, forged items, same for Bay 2: half the Steam Hammers removed, wake up Australia, no respect for what we. Once built, 186. Brand new Steam Locomotives. Repaired in War time a fleet of 1,200 locos, even Trams we formed/ forged new parts for. The high skill level, 5. Years. An Apprenticeship, higher trades Cert. As Snr. Tour guide last 18 years, even the Union Bosses of today, didn't realise under her roof, working conditions were horrible, No Washing Facilities, Three mins. To. Attend. The toilets, or. Get. Docked 15 mins. No one had sick, long service, special. Leave, even Annual Leave, forged right here at Eveleigh. A world recognised workshop, I've been around the world and right here Eveleigh, rates the finest, do not destroy this fact. Bays 1&2. Were all dirt floors, hot ingots,billets, pressings,forging NO FIRES, The racks of Swages, Clapper tools, Tongs, The 5 ton ingot, li s on the floor near the press, the O/H crane aloft, we lost the two 56. Class steam loco boilers, that raisedsteam and acted as theFurnaces to heat our. Ingots. More boilers located in the opp. End near the 40 cwt. Steam Double Arch drop hammer,provided steam and heat, NOTE ALL GONE, disrespect to our pioneering past, which proved to the world we could match the USA Baldwin Locomotive Company. Breyer Peacock, North British locomotive works, yes Eveleigh achieved that. High standard. Would not the. Criteria for. The Govt. Sale of Eveleigh to Mirvac state, "these heritage Railway Workshops. Are world rated, signing of the sale stipulates This Heritage Has To Remain intact" Is there no respect, imagine carpet to & around the Davy Press, where are all The. Hand tools, Die Blocks, Porter Bars, assoc. with the. press going. In Bay 2: the Heritage Racks of Clapper, Swages, cut off, Anvils, coke bins Hey these are part of the. Daily functioning of these. Great Workshops. To note in Bay 1: a forming hydraulic press, The Only one surviving. In. The. World, Visiting. Swiss group recognised the machine, and we make the shops. Like a. Circus? Being an ex. Worker. I noted tags on. Tools that were. Totally incorrect , to me. Who allocated the. Bods to do this. all incorrect. Yes a darn circus, leave the heritage alone, upgrade such, give it HeritageStatus. I have served 58 years a volunteer to NSWRail Heritage, cost a fortune, each day I speak and told of miss doings, and here we are back at this point.
A. Travellator, do you know the engineering facts re the walls of Eveleigh, built on up toSix. Metres of Adelaide sandfill, the huge wooden piles that support theEnglish Polychrome, laid brickwork, Long Heavy Piles, sunk deep, 150 mm. Planks dowelled into brick work, supports by swinging brick plinths, able to sustain the heavy vibrations from. Boilermaking and. forging operations, cut. On 7x5" planks mounted on the corners of the. Brick work.corner platforms constructed on 2 mtrex3mtre wood piles 12 on each. Yes a darn lot to know re this World Heritage Steam era Locomotive Workshops
The Bays3:4:4A again the piles, the brick work not everyday stuff, altering a wall could be a calamity. A walkway, travelator through the. Sub surface needs. Very careful consideration.
Many heritage lathes, milling ,filing boring machines are.ocated within 9 bay, they were part of the fabric of these great Workshops, Q. I walked through Bays in 1952, line shafting. Every where, some had steam donkey engines to drive, look
ALL GONE, what a way to treat Heritage. I assisted restoring. Valley Heights loco Heritage museum, we used 100 year old replica items to replicatethe1913 era. At The Worksmanagers Eveleigh office block, the. Guttering is modern styled gutter, Wake Up Australia, thus an old smithy, keeps steam locomotives on the main line ei.LVR 3237:5917:5367 etc. and PHM loco 3265 remetalled all her Axle Boxes, Cross heads, Big ends. Etc. today saddened for we have lost. The plot. Preserve Eveleigh a. Sydney Icon. Richard

In 1995 I was concerned re the destruction of our Iconic Eveleigh Railway Workshops, an ex. Tradesman, helped PHM, the STARPS group. RTM of Thirlmere, & Valley Hts.wrote book re Eveleigh. Then a member Smithsonian, Natl.Trust & RAHS, highly concerned the loss of Australian Industrial Pioneering, Rail. Manufacture, Bays 1&2: shall totally loose its heritage. A super market, accessibility to & from highly Dangerous. The Davy Press shall. Look like a circus, not a place where I worked, sweated, forged items, same for Bay 2: half the Steam Hammers removed, wake up Australia, no respect for what we. Once built, 186. Brand new Steam Locomotives. Repaired in War time a fleet of 1,200 locos, even Trams we formed/ forged new parts for. The high skill level, 5. Years. An Apprenticeship, higher trades Cert. As Snr. Tour guide last 18 years, even the Union Bosses of today, didn't realise under her roof, working conditions were horrible, No Washing Facilities, Three mins. To. Attend. The toilets, or. Get. Docked 15 mins. No one had sick, long service, special. Leave, even Annual Leave, forged right here at Eveleigh. A world recognised workshop, I've been around the world and right here Eveleigh, rates the finest, do not destroy this fact. Bays 1&2. Were all dirt floors, hot ingots,billets, pressings,forging NO FIRES, The racks of Swages, Clapper tools, Tongs, The 5 ton ingot, li s on the floor near the press, the O/H crane aloft, we lost the two 56. Class steam loco boilers, that raisedsteam and acted as theFurnaces to heat our. Ingots. More boilers located in the opp. End near the 40 cwt. Steam Double Arch drop hammer,provided steam and heat, NOTE ALL GONE, disrespect to our pioneering past, which proved to the world we could match the USA Baldwin Locomotive Company. Breyer Peacock, North British locomotive works, yes Eveleigh achieved that. High standard. Would not the. Criteria for. The Govt. Sale of Eveleigh to Mirvac state, "these heritage Railway Workshops. Are world rated, signing of the sale stipulates This Heritage Has To Remain intact" Is there no respect, imagine carpet to & around the Davy Press, where are all The. Hand tools, Die Blocks, Porter Bars, assoc. with the. press going. In Bay 2: the Heritage Racks of Clapper, Swages, cut off, Anvils, coke bins Hey these are part of the. Daily functioning of these. Great Workshops. To note in Bay 1: a forming hydraulic press, The Only one surviving. In. The. World, Visiting. Swiss group recognised the machine, and we make the shops. Like a. Circus? Being an ex. Worker. I noted tags on. Tools that were. Totally incorrect , to me. Who allocated the. Bods to do this. all incorrect. Yes a darn circus, leave the heritage alone, upgrade such, give it HeritageStatus. I have served 58 years a volunteer to NSWRail Heritage, cost a fortune, each day I speak and told of miss doings, and here we are back at this point.
A. Travellator, do you know the engineering facts re the walls of Eveleigh, built on up toSix. Metres of Adelaide sandfill, the huge wooden piles that support theEnglish Polychrome, laid brickwork, Long Heavy Piles, sunk deep, 150 mm. Planks dowelled into brick work, supports by swinging brick plinths, able to sustain the heavy vibrations from. Boilermaking and. forging operations, cut. On 7x5" planks mounted on the corners of the. Brick work.corner platforms constructed on 2 mtrex3mtre wood piles 12 on each. Yes a darn lot to know re this World Heritage Steam era Locomotive Workshops
The Bays3:4:4A again the piles, the brick work not everyday stuff, altering a wall could be a calamity. A walkway, travelator through the. Sub surface needs. Very careful consideration.
Many heritage lathes, milling ,filing boring machines are.ocated within 9 bay, they were part of the fabric of these great Workshops, Q. I walked through Bays in 1952, line shafting. Every where, some had steam donkey engines to drive, look
ALL GONE, what a way to treat Heritage. I assisted restoring. Valley Heights loco Heritage museum, we used 100 year old replica items to replicatethe1913 era. At The Worksmanagers Eveleigh office block, the. Guttering is modern styled gutter, Wake Up Australia, thus an old smithy, keeps steam locomotives on the main line ei.LVR 3237:5917:5367 etc. and PHM loco 3265 remetalled all her Axle Boxes, Cross heads, Big ends. Etc. today saddened for we have lost. The plot. Preserve Eveleigh a. Sydney Icon. Richard

In 1995 I was concerned re the destruction of our Iconic Eveleigh Railway Workshops, an ex. Tradesman, helped PHM, the STARPS group. RTM of Thirlmere, & Valley Hts.wrote book re Eveleigh. Then a member Smithsonian, Natl.Trust & RAHS, highly concerned the loss of Australian Industrial Pioneering, Rail. Manufacture, Bays 1&2: shall totally loose its heritage. A super market, accessibility to & from highly Dangerous. The Davy Press shall. Look like a circus, not a place where I worked, sweated, forged items, same for Bay 2: half the Steam Hammers removed, wake up Australia, no respect for what we. Once built, 186. Brand new Steam Locomotives. Repaired in War time a fleet of 1,200 locos, even Trams we formed/ forged new parts for. The high skill level, 5. Years. An Apprenticeship, higher trades Cert. As Snr. Tour guide last 18 years, even the Union Bosses of today, didn't realise under her roof, working conditions were horrible, No Washing Facilities, Three mins. To. Attend. The toilets, or. Get. Docked 15 mins. No one had sick, long service, special. Leave, even Annual Leave, forged right here at Eveleigh. A world recognised workshop, I've been around the world and right here Eveleigh, rates the finest, do not destroy this fact. Bays 1&2. Were all dirt floors, hot ingots,billets, pressings,forging NO FIRES, The racks of Swages, Clapper tools, Tongs, The 5 ton ingot, li s on the floor near the press, the O/H crane aloft, we lost the two 56. Class steam loco boilers, that raisedsteam and acted as theFurnaces to heat our. Ingots. More boilers located in the opp. End near the 40 cwt. Steam Double Arch drop hammer,provided steam and heat, NOTE ALL GONE, disrespect to our pioneering past, which proved to the world we could match the USA Baldwin Locomotive Company. Breyer Peacock, North British locomotive works, yes Eveleigh achieved that. High standard. Would not the. Criteria for. The Govt. Sale of Eveleigh to Mirvac state, "these heritage Railway Workshops. Are world rated, signing of the sale stipulates This Heritage Has To Remain intact" Is there no respect, imagine carpet to & around the Davy Press, where are all The. Hand tools, Die Blocks, Porter Bars, assoc. with the. press going. In Bay 2: the Heritage Racks of Clapper, Swages, cut off, Anvils, coke bins Hey these are part of the. Daily functioning of these. Great Workshops. To note in Bay 1: a forming hydraulic press, The Only one surviving. In. The. World, Visiting. Swiss group recognised the machine, and we make the shops. Like a. Circus? Being an ex. Worker. I noted tags on. Tools that were. Totally incorrect , to me. Who allocated the. Bods to do this. all incorrect. Yes a darn circus, leave the heritage alone, upgrade such, give it HeritageStatus. I have served 58 years a volunteer to NSWRail Heritage, cost a fortune, each day I speak and told of miss doings, and here we are back at this point.
A. Travellator, do you know the engineering facts re the walls of Eveleigh, built on up toSix. Metres of Adelaide sandfill, the huge wooden piles that support theEnglish Polychrome, laid brickwork, Long Heavy Piles, sunk deep, 150 mm. Planks dowelled into brick work, supports by swinging brick plinths, able to sustain the heavy vibrations from. Boilermaking and. forging operations, cut. On 7x5" planks mounted on the corners of the. Brick work.corner platforms constructed on 2 mtrex3mtre wood piles 12 on each. Yes a darn lot to know re this World Heritage Steam era Locomotive Workshops
The Bays3:4:4A again the piles, the brick work not everyday stuff, altering a wall could be a calamity. A walkway, travelator through the. Sub surface needs. Very careful consideration.
Many heritage lathes, milling ,filing boring machines are.ocated within 9 bay, they were part of the fabric of these great Workshops, Q. I walked through Bays in 1952, line shafting. Every where, some had steam donkey engines to drive, look
ALL GONE, what a way to treat Heritage. I assisted restoring. Valley Heights loco Heritage museum, we used 100 year old replica items to replicatethe1913 era. At The Worksmanagers Eveleigh office block, the. Guttering is modern styled gutter, Wake Up Australia, thus an old smithy, keeps steam locomotives on the main line ei.LVR 3237:5917:5367 etc. and PHM loco 3265 remetalled all her Axle Boxes, Cross heads, Big ends. Etc. today saddened for we have lost. The plot. Preserve Eveleigh a. Sydney Icon. Richard

Dear Sir/ Madam,

Re: Mirvac DAs Locomotive Workshops: SSDA 8517 and SSDA8449
Attention: Annie Leung

In my submission I would ask the Department when determining these applications to take into account in its assessment and formulation of Development Consent Conditions the following conclusions I have drawn from my examination of the DAs.

I advise that this is a personal submission and I have read and agree to the terms of the privacy statement as required.

Issues which should be included in Conditions of Development Consent
The Development Consent not be granted until an independent audit commissioned by the Department of Planning and Environment examines and reports on how the Mirvac DAs conform to all the heritage plans and covenants applying to Eveleigh Railway Workshops.

The Development Consent includes conditions to ensure Bays 1 and 2 are exclusively devoted to heritage interpretation.
The concepts for a Workers Wall and Foundry Interpretation are included in the Heritage Interpretation Strategy.

Any Development Consent include a condition requiring the moveable heritage collection be kept intact within the Workshop and that the issues surrounding the collection be the subject of investigation by an independent expert familiar with the collection.
The DAs not be allowed to proceed with plans for a travelator, loading bay and multiple commercial/retail signages as they will severely impact on the industrial character of the Workshop buildings.
The Heritage Interpretation Strategy be updated to:
a) reinsert many of those interpretation strategies removed from the 2012 interpretation plan;
b)include a section on the 1917 Great Strike which originated at Eveleigh Locomotive Workshops and the Centenary of which has been widely celebrated this year; and
c) change in custodianship of the "Eveleigh Stories" Collection directly to the Workshops
Yours Sincerely,

Dear Sir/ Madam,

Re: Mirvac DAs Locomotive Workshops: SSDA 8517 and SSDA8449
Attention: Annie Leung

I ask the Department to consider the following as Development Consent Conditions.

I advise that this is a personal submission and I have read and agree to the terms of the privacy statement as required.


Development Consent not be granted until an independent audit commissioned by the Department of Planning and Environment examines and reports on how the Mirvac DAs conform to all the heritage plans and covenants applying to Eveleigh Railway Workshops.

The Development Consent includes conditions to ensure Bays 1 and 2 are exclusively devoted to heritage interpretation.

The concepts for a Workers Wall and Foundry Interpretation are included in the Heritage Interpretation Strategy.

Any Development Consent include a condition requiring the moveable heritage collection be kept intact within the Workshop.

Plans for a travelator, loading bay and multiple commercial/retail signages in the DAs be rejected as they will severely impact on the heritage character of the Workshop buildings.

The Heritage Interpretation Strategy be updated to:
a) reinsert many of those interpretation strategies removed from the 2012 interpretation plan;
b)include a section on the 1917 Great Strike which originated at Eveleigh Locomotive Workshops and the Centenary of which has been widely celebrated this year; and
c) change in custodianship of the "Eveleigh Stories" Collection directly to the Workshops


Yours Sincerely,
Jo McKinnon
26 Gladstone Street
Enmore NSW 2042

Dear Madam/Sir,
In my submission I request that the Department, when determining these applications, takes into account the following requests in its assessment and formulation of Development Consent Conditions

Items which should be included in Conditions of Development Consent
* The Development Consents to be granted only if an independent audit shows that the Mirvac DAs conform to the heritage plans and covenants already applying to Eveleigh Railway Workshops.
* The Development Consent includes conditions to ensure Bays 1 and 2 are exclusively devoted to heritage interpretation.
* The Development Consents include conditions that require the moveable heritage collection be kept intact within the Workshop.
* The Development Consents explicitly include a condition that all developments are consistent with and conform to the existing Heritage Interpretation Strategy and subsequent updates.
If possible, that the concepts for a Workers Wall and Foundry Interpretation should be included in the Heritage Interpretation Strategy.

Dear Sir/ Madam,

Re: Mirvac DAs Locomotive Workshops: SSDA 8517 and SSDA8449
Attention: Annie Leung

In my submission I would ask the Department when determining these applications to take into account in its assessment and formulation of Development Consent Conditions the following conclusions I have drawn from my examination of the DAs.

I advise that this is a personal submission and I have read and agree to the terms of the privacy statement as required.

Issues which should be included in Conditions of Development Consent
The Development Consent not be granted until an independent audit commissioned by the Department of Planning and Environment examines and reports on how the Mirvac DAs conform to all the heritage plans and covenants applying to Eveleigh Railway Workshops.
The Development Consent includes conditions to ensure Bays 1 and 2 are exclusively devoted to heritage interpretation.
The concepts for a Workers Wall and Foundry Interpretation are included in the Heritage Interpretation Strategy.
Any Development Consent include a condition requiring the moveable heritage collection be kept intact within the Workshop and that the issues surrounding the collection be the subject of investigation by an independent expert familiar with the collection.
The DAs not be allowed to proceed with plans for a travelator, loading bay and multiple commercial/retail signages as they will severely impact on the industrial character of the Workshop buildings.
The Heritage Interpretation Strategy be updated to:
a) reinsert many of those interpretation strategies removed from the 2012 interpretation plan;
b)include a section on the 1917 Great Strike which originated at Eveleigh Locomotive Workshops and the Centenary of which has been widely celebrated this year; and
c) change in custodianship of the "Eveleigh Stories" Collection directly to the Workshops
Yours Sincerely,
Robert Schroeder

Dear Sir/ Madam,

Re: Mirvac DAs Locomotive Workshops: SSDA 8517 and SSDA8449
Attention: Annie Leung

In my submission I would ask the Department when determining these applications to take into account in its assessment and formulation of Development Consent Conditions the following conclusions I have drawn from my examination of the DAs.

I advise that this is a personal submission and I have read and agree to the terms of the privacy statement as required.

Issues which should be included in Conditions of Development Consent

The Development Consent not be granted until an independent audit commissioned by the Department of Planning and Environment examines and reports on how the Mirvac DAs conform to all the heritage plans and covenants applying to Eveleigh Railway Workshops.
The Development Consent includes conditions to ensure Bays 1 and 2 are exclusively devoted to heritage interpretation.
The concepts for a Workers Wall and Foundry Interpretation are included in the Heritage Interpretation Strategy.
Any Development Consent include a condition requiring the moveable heritage collection be kept intact within the Workshop and that the issues surrounding the collection be the subject of investigation by an independent expert familiar with the collection.
The DAs not be allowed to proceed with plans for a travelator, loading bay and multiple commercial/retail signages as they will severely impact on the industrial character of the Workshop buildings.
The Heritage Interpretation Strategy be updated to:
a) reinsert many of those interpretation strategies removed from the 2012 interpretation plan;
b)include a section on the 1917 Great Strike which originated at Eveleigh Locomotive Workshops and the Centenary of which has been widely celebrated this year; and
c) change in custodianship of the "Eveleigh Stories" Collection directly to the Workshops

Yours Sincerely,

Colin Schroeder

Dear Sir/ Madam,

Re: Mirvac DAs Locomotive Workshops: SSDA 8517 and SSDA8449
Attention: Annie Leung

I am a local resident who is greatly concerned with the potential for overdevelopment of the both this site and the Eveleigh site. I also have a keen interest in retaining the historical and heritage value of the site. My mother's family is from Redfern and my great-grandfather worked in the workshops as a locksmith in the first half of last century. It is important that the history of the site as a workplace is retained for future generations.

I advise that this is a personal submission and I have read and agree to the terms of the privacy statement as required.

Issues which should be included in Conditions of Development Consent
The Development Consent not be granted until an independent audit commissioned by the Department of Planning and Environment examines and reports on how the Mirvac DAs conform to all the heritage plans and covenants applying to Eveleigh Railway Workshops.
The Development Consent includes conditions to ensure Bays 1 and 2 are exclusively devoted to heritage interpretation.
The concepts for a Workers Wall and Foundry Interpretation are included in the Heritage Interpretation Strategy.
Any Development Consent include a condition requiring the moveable heritage collection be kept intact within the Workshop and that the issues surrounding the collection be the subject of investigation by an independent expert familiar with the collection.
The DAs not be allowed to proceed with plans for a travelator, loading bay and multiple commercial/retail signages as they will severely impact on the industrial character of the Workshop buildings.
The Heritage Interpretation Strategy be updated to:
a) reinsert many of those interpretation strategies removed from the 2012 interpretation plan;
b)include a section on the 1917 Great Strike which originated at Eveleigh Locomotive Workshops and the Centenary of which has been widely celebrated this year; and
c) change in custodianship of the "Eveleigh Stories" Collection directly to the Workshops
Yours Sincerely,
Jacqueline Flynn

Dear Sir/ Madam,

Re: Mirvac DAs Locomotive Workshops: SSDA 8517 and SSDA8449
Attention: Annie Leung

In my submission I would ask the Department when determining these applications to take into account in its assessment and formulation of Development Consent Conditions the following conclusions.
I am a heritage architect and have had a long association with Eveleigh - Both the Locomotive and Carriage Workshops. I worked on the initial ATP conversion while at the Public Works Department in the 1980s and 1990s. I have written conservation management plans for the Locomotive Workshops and the Carriage Workshops including revisions in the early 2000s when with Otto Cserhalmi Partners. I worked for several years on the adaptive reuse of the Carriage Workshops building. The Eveleigh Railway Yards as a whole are a remarkable and highly significant assemblage of buildings and industrial heritage. Their conservation and interpretation for future generations is crucial to our cultural identity. I am concerned that the proposal puts at risk the heritage values of the place.

I advise that this is a personal submission and I have read and agree to the terms of the privacy statement as required.

Issues which should be included in Conditions of Development Consent
The Development Consent not be granted until an independent audit commissioned by the Department of Planning and Environment examines and reports on how the Mirvac DAs conform to all the heritage plans and covenants applying to Eveleigh Railway Workshops.
The Development Consent includes conditions to ensure Bays 1 and 2 are exclusively devoted to heritage interpretation. The initial proposal in the 1990s was for four bays to be retained as Blacksmiths workshops. The current situation os already a compromise and should not be diminished.
The concepts for a Workers Wall and Foundry Interpretation are included in the Heritage Interpretation Strategy. The workers wall concept was base on a set of rail recovered from the Carriageworks redevelopment and a series of rails with names welded on them was retrieved from the footprint of the Large Performance space (it is not known where these are not but I have the names transcribed)
Any Development Consent include a condition requiring the moveable heritage collection be kept intact within the Workshop and that the issues surrounding the collection be the subject of investigation by an independent expert familiar with the collection. Mr David Macbeath has intimate knowledge of this collection.
The DAs not be allowed to proceed with plans for a travellator, loading bay and multiple commercial/retail signage as they will severely impact on the industrial character of the Workshop buildings.
The Heritage Interpretation Strategy be updated to:
a) reinsert many of those interpretation strategies removed from the 2012 interpretation plan;
b)include a section on the 1917 Great Strike which originated at Eveleigh Locomotive Workshops and the Centenary of which has been widely celebrated this year; and
c) change in custodianship of the "Eveleigh Stories" Collection directly to the Workshops
d0 incorporate the wealth of historical information available about Eveleigh.
Yours Sincerely,
Jean Rice
13 St John St
Newtown