Northern Beaches - Roadworks Stage 2

I am again voicing my opposition to the proposed rebuilding of Manly Vale school with large road systems on sensitive endangered land . To give approval to this development is vandalism of the highest order with no regard whatsoever for endangered wildlife, the untouched heathland and future generations of children.It needs to be placed on the footprint of the current school buildings and hence preserve out besutiful tressured land.

I am again voicing my opposition to the proposed rebuilding of Manly Vale school with large road systems on sensitive endangered land . To give approval to this development is vandalism of the highest order with no regard whatsoever for endangered wildlife, the untouched heathland and future generations of children.It needs to be placed on the footprint of the current school buildings and hence preserve out besutiful tressured land.

I am a nearby resident of the proposed road widening and object strongly to the scale of the proposal. The remnant forest is at the top of the catchment for Manly Dam and clearing will adversely affect the flow of water into the creek/s leading into the dam. The forest itself is an endangered ecological community and is also the only bushland corridor for wildlife moving between Narrabeen Lagoon catchment/Oxford Falls and Manly Warringah War Memorial Park. A very large area of bushland has already been cleared for construction of the hospital and that remaining is the only visible "forest" in this area of Frenchs Forest. Also, there is little point in widening the road in one area when it is then funnelled back onto smaller roads further along the route - this saves very little commuting time at a very big cost to the environment.

There is great concern about the planned excessive widening of Warringah Rd. for the new hospital.
Most worrying is the destruction of native bush-land that is one of the last stands of an endangered ecological community, namely Duffy's Forest type Ecological Community.
Many people from Warringah and Manly protested strongly to save another area of bush-land of the same type in the catchment of Manly Warringah War Memorial Park in 1999. That was ripped up by bulldozers for the Ardel site.
Not only is the native forest adjacent to the hospital and across Wakehurst Parkway endangered, it provides an essential wildlife corridor between Manly Dam and Narrabeen Lagoon.
Surely it would not be necessary to widen Warringah Rd to the extent proposed if more attention was given to a rapid transit lane for public transport, ie buses, between Dee Why and Chatswood.
Why has this not been given priority?
Protect the environment and give more consideration to public transport.

The Right turn from Mona Vale Rd Eastbound into Forest Way Southbound currently has a double Right turning lane of some length. The queue for Right turning traffic at this intersection during the evening peak can sometimes extend around the corner (90kmh zone) creating rear-ender accident risks, and emergency braking is evident on the road. There is ample space in the median strip to double the capacity of the (double) RIght turn lane, which could alleviate this safety concern, and provide for increased traffic access to the Northern Beaches Hospital.

The Stage 2 works and the Starkey St pedestrian bridge project (hopefully with syncing of the 4 sets of traffic lights in the area) will definitely improve the movement of through traffic.

However, the volume of traffic to and from Roseville Chase (particularly as these works will deliver traffic to Roseville Chase quicker in the morning peak) may only be alleviated by the construction of the Northern Beaches Tunnel between the Burnt Bridge Deviation and the Warringah Freeway at Cammeray.

A Northern Beaches Tunnel would carry most Sydney city, South/Woolongong, Kingsford Smith and Badgery's Creek Airport, North Sydney and St. Leonards bound traffic off Warringah Rd (and the Spit Bridge/Military Rd corridor) to/from Pittwater, Warringah, and Manly LGA's.

20th August, 2015


Submission to Stage 2 Northern Beaches Hospital Road Connectivity and Network Enhancement Project

This submission is on behalf of the Belrose Rural Community Association (BRCA). Our association's membership includes local residents, some non government organisations, some local businesses, a primary school and a
high school.

We object to Stage Two of the roadworks, we are in opposition for the following reasons:

* The hospital access is secured with the widening of Frenchs Forest Road. We consider that Frenchs Forest Road should become a State Road and the cost of construction, management and maintenance should be borne by the NSW State Government. This road provides access for three major State Government facilities.

* The proposed Stage 2 works are grossly destructive and show no substantial benefit. Even worse, the proposed roadworks will lead to an increase in car use and public transport will lose out. We are familiar with the public transport options in this area, or rather the lack of them, and demand improvements of the public transport options rather than more roads. As for active transport, the enclosure of sections of the shared path between noise barrier and retaining wall provides an unsafe and hostile environment, discouraging this mode of transport.

* We oppose Stage 2 as it is destructive to the iconic forest, named after Mr French, after whom the suburb of Frenchs Forest was named. The historic content would be annihilated.

* It is predicted that the local stand of forest, an endangered ecological community (DFEC) will become extinct. The forest is one of the two character trademarks of the Northern Beaches. To wipe out the forest appearance when travelling along Warringah Road in the area surrounding and adjacent to the Northern Beaches Hospital is ensuring the loss of identity of the location.

* The preservation of this endangered ecological community must be a priority. The proposed works make no attempt at all to preserve this very important community.

* We oppose the destruction of the North- South wildlife corridor for terrestrial fauna. Your argument that no endangered terrestrial fauna species have been documented is completely unsatisfactory on two counts:
1. the SMEC's surveys have been done over a very limited time
2. the complete dismissal of the fact that common species like the swamp wallaby will become locally threatened and extinct in the Manly Dam bushland area.




We further insist, that if this project goes ahead, offsets are sought from no other location than in the adjacent local bushland and affected water catchment areas.

In conclusion, the proposed destruction is not worth saving a few seconds of travel time, which is all one can expect according to the graph that has been included in the executive summary for the Road works.
Stage two works are by no means essential and we object to this work being carried out.


Yours faithfully




Dr. Conny Harris
President

The siting of the Northern Beaches Hospital has been a huge planning blunder, located as it is atop not one but at least five bushland catchments. The majority of community submissions to the State Government along with community feedback in many forums, constantly objected to the original site for a myriad of reasons and proposed alternatives (notably Mona Vale Hospital) - all to no avail.

Subsequent to the construction approval and clearing of bushland on the Northern Beaches Hospital site in 2014 (which wiped out the Endangered Ecological Community that had existed here for aeons) - the public is now invited to comment on the huge changes envisaged to be necessary for the road network surrounding the site to accommodate the new hospital, changes which will come at a massive financial, ecological and aesthetic cost to the community, which must now `adapt' to the ramifications of the foolish decision to site the hospital on this location in the first place.

I will outline only a few of these impacts here due to limited time availability:

Stage II Roadworks - which include a 12-lane Warringah Road - will adversely affect and cause increased urban runoff, nutrient enrichment and pollution into a network of creeks feeding three lagoons - Manly Lagoon, Curl Curl Lagoon and Narrabeen Lagoon along with creeks traversing Garigal National Park in Forestville in the catchments of upper Middle Harbour and Bantry Bay. There will be similar detrimental impacts on creeks flowing through nearby bushland reserves. This will facilitate conditions for increased invasion by noxious and environmental weeds. Large reserves likely to be impacted by increased urban runoff from Stage II works include Allenby Park, Forestville Park, Garigal National Park Forestville and Garigal National Park, as yet unprotected bushland in Oxford Falls and the Manly-Warringah War Memorial Park. Smaller reserves affected include Jindabyne Reserve (which has a stand of Coachwood [Ceratopetalum apetalum]), Rabbett Reserve and Peppercorn Park.

It must be highlighted that the area proposed for Stage II Roadworks is directly above Manly Warringah War Memorial Park - the district's largest protected reserve and one greatly treasured by the local community. It has a network of creeks flowing into a freshwater reservoir (Manly Dam) which - a rarity in metropolitan Sydney,- remains clean enough for swimming.

Water runoff from the top of the catchment is critical to the health of the riparian zone and also influence the wider surrounding vegetation via hydrological changes such as increased nitrogen levels. Curl Curl Creek is predicted to experience a 10% increase in water runoff from the addition of new, impervious surfaces. As this is likely to affect Red Crown Toadlet breeding habitat, a detention basin is proposed as a mitigation measure. These detention basins inevitably fail to achieve their desired objectives and have to be endlessly maintained at cost to residents. The existing bushland at the top of the catchment already naturally filtered out nutrients at no cost and far better than any artificial constructs will ever do.

Developments in the last 15 years above Manly Dam have already seen a deterioration of its previously near-pristine major feeder creek (Curl Curl Creek). Stage II proposals - such as vastly increased traffic along Aquatic Drive to create another busy access onto Wakehurst Parkway; widening of Allambie Road; and massive road-widening along Warringah Rd - will contribute to an increase in hard surfaces causing a further decline of water quality in Manly Warringah War Memorial Park - and hence flow on to Manly Lagoon and the iconic surfing beaches of Manly and district.

Road-widening in Allambie Heights and Frenchs Forest, such as Allambie Rd, Frenchs Forest Rd, Wakehurst Parkway, and Aquatic Drive, will also be detrimental to the environmental and visual amenity of the area. It would involve destruction of more bushland including endangered Duffy's Forest bushland, iconic remnant native trees and hence also adversely affect wildlife. Indeed, this vital wildlife corridor on and around the hospital site has, in the last ten years, facilitated the southward return of wallabies, bandicoots, echidnas, lyre-birds and other species from the bushland reserves around Hawkesbury River and beyond to re-populate habitats in Warrinhgah including Manly Dam and neighbouring Condover Reserve, North Balgowlah and Allenby Park, Allambie Hts. This followed intensive efforts by Northern Sydney councils and NPWS to control predatory foxes and feral cats. As stated, a large section of this Category 1 Bushland corridor, was allowed to be destroyed in 2014 under "State Significant" legislation for the initial construction of the hospital. The remainder looks set to be annihilated by the Stage II Roadworks. Hence it is predicted that this local stand of forest, an endangered ecological community (DFEC) will become extinct - a terrible indictment on management agencies. The urgent imperative to protect DEFC's should be given top priority but instead is usually over-ridden by the push for development.

Frenchs Forest and adjacent area is known locally as "The Forest" due to the extensive bushland and tranquil, semi-rural aspect of the area a mere sixty years ago. Stage II roadwork proposals would destroy large areas of the remaining "forest", resulting in an unquantifiable loss of flora and fauna - and transform Frenchs Forest into a busy, impersonal, fast-paced urban area not unlike North Sydney, complete with massive traffic interchanges, tunnels, and increased noise and air pollution. This would certainly not be a pleasant, recuperative location for hospital patients.

1. If the noise barrier is not sufficient for the extra noise caused in the construction of the expanded road and as my house will then back onto this road, double glazing windows will be needed for my home. 2. I would also like a building assessment inspection for my home to be done prior to construction. 3.How will dust and air pollution be controlled during this construction? 4. Only one day without construction (ie Sundays) - 1/7th of a week is a very small amount of peace for residents

A MAJOR CONCERN is what physical road barrier arrangement is in place to prevent flow of traffic from the Hospital's southern access point across Warringah Road into Hilmer Street. It will not be acceptable to residents for Hilmer and Fitzpatrick Road East to be used as a 'rat run' for westbound traffic from the Hospital.

GOOD FEATURES of the plan include:
- the new Pedestrian/cycle bridge near Hilmer Street.
- the maintenance of the pedestrian bridge from Bantry Bay Road to the Aquatic Centre south of Aquatic Drive.
- Keeping the eastern end of Fitzpatrick Road East as is, ending on Bantry Bay Road. It MUST NOT be opened onto Wakehurst Parkway.
Thank you for planning which allows better traffic flow along a congested route that will become still busier with the Hospital and with developments in Dee Why and Brookvale, while catering for the needs of local communities who treasure their current lifestyle.

Why are u Demolish Business at Warringah Road, opposite Hospital site.Petrol Station going or Staying.
2 No 12 Lanes How far Widen the Road.
How many Lanes going be at Wakehurst Parkway.
How issue Traffic, No Parking at Warringah Road.
There issue Traffic, Parking t Frenchs Forest Road West.
Please move Frenchs Forest Police Station near Hospital Site.
Where the Design of Warringah Road Stage 2?
ReSurfer or needs Repairing the Roads First at Warringah Road, Frenchs Forest Road,West. Naree Road,
What the Height for Noise Barrier, at Frenchs Forest Road West,
Where the lane for Public Transport?
When Wakeurst Parkway Break down lanes be Open end this year or Early next year.
Have u received Compalin from Resident's Road Project any changes needs been made.
Will Road Project will be Finish Opening time for New Hospital FrenchS Forest 2018.

I oppose Stage 2 of the proposed NBH roadwork.
Local residents and visitors or commuters through the area will be losing
good air quality,
quietened surroundings,
pleasant bush surroundings that convene mental well being,
social contacts to their neighbours by having a dividing channel and walls in their midst
a little business district offering 4 restaurants, doctors, a chemist, a coffee and take away shop, a petrol station and a fishing station

ENVIRONMENT: just about all of the vegetation to be eradicated (6.13 ha) is Duffys Forest Ecological Community, DFEC (6.1ha). DFEC is an endangered ecological community which is predicted to become locally extinct. SMEC found four threatened fauna species and no threatened flora species during their field surveys.
Red- crowned Toadlet ( Pseudophryne australis ), Powerful Owl ( Ninox stenua ), Swift Parrot ( Lathamus discolor ) and Grey-headed Flying fox ( Pteropus poliocephalus ).
Further the area provides with medium to high likelihood habitat for 40 threatened or endangered fauna species and 17 listed flora species. The fact that these were not present during the field survey is not strong evidence that they do not exist in the proposed area. seasonal changes and dormancy can hide species easily over the timespan that was used for conducting the studies.
The impact of habit destruction is substantial. Numbers regarding affected trees and hollows are not coherent. Pg 221 of Vol 1 states : about 65 hollow bearing trees will be removed for Stage 2 Project along Wakehurst Parkway and Warringah Road. Several of these trees have more than one hollow. A total of 103 hollows were counted in 65 trees.
Page 229 of Vol 1 states: About 85 hollow bearing trees will be removed for Stage 2 along Wakehurst Parkway and Warringah Road. Several of these trees have more than one hollow. A total of 129 hollows were counted in the 85 trees. The following numbers regarding sizes and habitat provision equally do not match. Please rectify this confusion.

Ecological connectivity is planed to be decimated, by destruction of two existing wildlife corridors. A large regional corridor, that links northern bushland from Garigal National Park, Oxford Falls and Narrabeen Lagoon Catchment with Manly Dam bushland and a small one that follows Warringah Rd along its southern side and connects bushland between east and west. The large regional corridor is limited by Warringah - and Frenches Forest road and we are pleased to read that SMEC has studies confirming that even bandicoots manage to cross the Warringah road barrier. From roadkill data, we know about the continuous use of the priority 1 or 'regional' wildlife corridor. It is used by large terrestrial animals including wallabies, bandicoots, possums and possibly echidnas and tiger quolls.
The Spotted Tailed Quoll ( Dasyurus maculatus ) which has recently been confirmed to be in the Narrabeen Lagoon Catchment will be unable to cross over to Manly Dam bushland and I disagree with the conclusion that this would have no adverse impact on the life cycle of this species.

Connectivity considerations are in SMECs assessment reserved for threatened fauna species, connectivity must be preserved for all species as to prevent species becoming extinct in the otherwise isolated patch. To state:'genetic testing is necessary to determine the the level of interaction between populations occupying habitat to the north and to the south of the study area' (SMEC) is against the precautionary principle which forms part of our legislation.
Roadkill data clearly confirms the movements of large terrestrial animals and the precautionary principle must be applied.

A lesser corridor follows along the bushland south of Warringah road and is used by birds and small animals predominantly.

Water run off patterns and habitat in rock formations are impacted. Acidity changes and nutrient loads are predicted from the increase in road surfaces. This will facilitate weed invasion and habitat decline and light will further deter movement in the corridor. Also noise levels will further degrade habitats for fauna.

The climbing Galaxias, a fish in the Manly Dam area that colonises Curl Curl creek will be placed at risk of extinction if water flows will be not contained or water quality degrades.
The forest is a non replaceable asset. If offsets were to be used they must come from adjacent areas.

ACCESS: road access to the hospital is perfectly secured with the widening of Frenchs Forest road. For active travel the options remain unsatisfactory or decline. The placement of the shared path between road and noise barrier will be most unpleasant to users and the enclosure of the path between retaining wall and noise barrier opposite Forest Way will feel unsafe. A pleasant bush path in existent will lost for a hostile environment.
The proposed road upgrade will in no way contribute to enhancing active travel. It will encourage car use within the studied area.

Frenchs Forest is incapable of having the proposed infrastructure and keeping its identity. Non of the forest will remain and local people, mostly families will leave due to the horrific impact.
The forest is also one of the two character trademarks of the Northern Beaches. Its destruction will scar not only the local area but the whole of the Northern a Beaches, as it is one of the 3 entrances to the peninsula.

In conclusion, the damage to Frenchs Forest, its residential neighbourhood area, its natural environment, the priority one wildlife corridor, local businesses, healing provisions for patients in the hospital, its historic connection and its damage to active transport are unacceptable. The benefits of saving a few seconds travelling along the affected roads are so minimal that Stage 2 should be scrapped and the money used for more important and beneficial projects.
I further find wording of the community summary document misleading, important facts missing and the timespan for studying over 2500 pages next to regular life commitments impossible to comply with. I request an extension of the community feedback time.

The Australian Plant Society, group Northern Beaches likes to take the opportunity to comment on Stage 2 of the 'Northern Beaches Hospital Road Connectivity and Network Enhancement Project'.
Our Northern Beaches group has been established for decades, meets regularly at Stony Range and has regular outings into the native bushland. We are familiar with the area affected by stage 2 of the Northern Beaches Hospital road works.

We oppose the Stage 2 of the Northern Beaches Hospital Road Connectivity and Network enhancement project

Our opposition is based on the information provided within the EIS:

1) the enormous loss of DFEC, 2) the destruction of the wildlife corridor and 3) the anticipated continuing negative effects after completion of the work on the surrounding bushland. The loss of 6.1 ha of Duffys Forest Ecological Community, an already endangered ecological community is not acceptable. Whilst the community consultation document makes it sound as if DFEC is only in this region reduced and elsewhere perhaps abundant, the fact is that it is nowhere else on this planet in existence. Less than 16% of its original extent exist and that extent has always been limited to ridge tops in this region. After the loss of 5.1 ha for the hospital the further eradication of 6.1 ha for the roads will, according to SMEC your environmental consultants, make DFEC critical endangered and within Frenchs Forest it is predicted to become extinct. This is an unacceptable outcome for any ecological community, but perhaps especially for one that is characterised by its extraordinary plant biodiversity.

The wildlife corridor between the Oxford Falls area and Manly Dam, a priority 1 wildlife corridor, is at the moment already limited especially by the 6 lane Warringah rd crossing it. The proposed channeling of 4 lanes, retaining and soundproofing walls will result in a 100% separation of this corridor for terrestrial animals.

The spotted tail quoll has been found last year in the Oxford Falls / Belrose bushland and it could potentially at this stage still cross over into the Manly Dam bushland. The 7 part test states the quoll will not be adversely affected by having the priority 1 corridor cut. We strongly disagree.
Secondly, whilst swamp wallabies are not threatened, the destruction of this wildlife corridor will make the Manly Dam population locally threatened and their survival would be unlikely.
Many plants rely on animals for their reproduction and many pollinators are still unknown. Often mammals are pollinators in the Australian ecosystems and this is an additional argument why ecological communities need to be preserved as a whole.

It is predicted that due to edge effects further DFEC will be affected by weed and exotic fauna invasion. Also one good section adjacent to the hospital site is judged to suffer from severely altered drainage patterns. These further impacts are not calculated in the 6.1 ha.

Noting that the average travel time after building the proposed roads will in the pm peak still be longer than the travel time that was needed in 2012 for those journeys, we are at a loss to understand why such a destructive plan is considered all together.

If this development goes ahead, we demand all offsets to be found within the local area and not in other parts of NSW.
We further demand that if this project goes ahead, soil translocation and seed collections be carried out in a scientific responsible manner.

Conny Harris
President APS Northern Beaches

As a wildlife carer and environmentalist I have grave concerns regarding the Stage 2 of the Northern Beaches Hospital development.
* Wildlife Habitat destruction - the Stage 1 destruction of bushland and wildlife habitat caused many animals to loose habitat including birds - Powerful Owl, Yellow tailed cockatoo, mammals - swamp wallabies, possums, flying foxes and monotreme - echidna, plus reptiles - lizards and snakes.
* Loss of wildlife Corridor between Garigal National Park, Manly Dam and Narabeen Lake. Many animals used bush alongside Warringah Road as a means to travel between areas. With the Stage 2 development many more animals will be killed trying to move between the above areas.
The roadkill data collected by both Sydney Wildlife and WIRES shows a large increase in the number of animals either killed on Warringah or Frenchs Forest Roads since the Stage 1 was carried out and it is likely that far more will be killed when the Stage 2 demolition of bushland occurs.
* Fauna Mitigation Devices - There has been many discussions to seek fauna protection measures at the hospital site to allow the wildlife to be able to cross between the remaining bushland on either side of Wakehurst Parkway and connectivity between the identified areas.
* Fauna overpass needs to be included in development plans to allow for the animals to safely move across from remaining bushland and prevent large amount of native animal roadkill
* Remaining old gum trees need to be retained in the area adjacent to Wakehurst Parkway and Frenchs Forest Road, to retain native animal habitats

I am objecting to the huge road works proposed for the Northern Beaches Hospital site on the grounds of
- the destruction of the wildlife corridors between Manly reserve area and Garingal National Park (northern section)
- the damage to an endangered plant community and the fauna that reside with in it
- an the failure to develop an integrated public transport plan.
- The proposal, despite its cost, will see no change in reality to travel times. Without a radical rethink, this plan will increase the reliance of the Northern Beaches on the car. The geography of the peninsula makes it ill-suited to continually enlarging road projects unless a swathe of destruction is cut through the bush.

This project will cause the loss of Duffys Forest Endangered Ecological Community and destroy the wildlife corridor between Manly Dam and Oxford Falls

To Whom It May Concern,


We, the Qasabian Family, the owners of 461 Warringah Rd (7-Eleven and Fishing Station) object to the carrying of Stage 2. It is excessive, costly and there are far more negatives than positives. The sole purpose of carrying out stage 2 is for aesthetic reasons only, as The Premier Mike Baird said on the news.... the roads are being built to match the hospital!


We have not had sufficient time to read and provide feedback on the >2000 page Stage 2 EIS statement, therefore would like to request an extension for an additional 2 weeks to be able to provide further feedback. Unfortunately we all have businesses to run, full-time jobs and an RMS acquisition to deal with, having 3 weeks to read >2000 pages is a completely unreasonable timeframe.


The Stage EIS overview is a nice glossy brochure, without any details for the public to actually understand the project. It is unfair, unacceptable and misleading to the local community and RMS continue to deceive the locals!


In addition, the feedback submission closing date is the 21 August and is the same terms the RMS are acquiring the businesses and residents. How can you genuinely be considering any feedback from the local community, if in fact they are reading through the 2000+ pages? This is unfair!


The traffic executive summary states how the project satisfies the needs of addressing the traffic situation. It shows a graph of the AM peak hour traffic - average speed of cars in the studied area is 21.9km, after 2018 it increases to 23.8km, and by 2028, slightly decreases to 23.7km. The section of studied area is approximately 1.5kms and from your analysis, is expected to save approximately 20 seconds per car for the stretch of the studied area. $400 million to do this is unnecessary and a waste of taxpayer's money!


The feedback below is specifically in relation to chapter 10 - Socio-economic, land use, and property.


Section 10.3.1 -


"At a local level, retailers and food and beverage premises in and near the project would be expected to attract increased trade from construction workers during the delivery phase of the project"


Considering you are acquiring the retailers at the Bantry Bay shops, opposite the hospital, there are even less retailers to support your increased trade statement. As a current resident in Frenchs Forest, there are very few retail outlets. We are going to have an increase in population with fewer services to support the population! Or do you have future plans that are not transparent to the public as yet?


Are you going to compensate the retailers you are acquiring for this expected increase in trade that they will not be there to reap the benefits of?


"As a consequence, it is intended that the existing businesses and the jobs they generate are relocated within the locality to minimise any impacts to the local economy and provision of services to the local community"


Your intention stated above is very far from reality. There has been no effort or assistance from RMS or any government body to assist the local businesses in relocating, instead presenting them with more and more challenges by passing from one department to another.


As a local business, we have been looking for relocation alternatives for Fishing Station and a Service Station site for over 12 months and we are advised by all local real estate agents and council that it is mission impossible. There have been extensive amounts of conversing with no follow through actions by any Government body.


"Roads and Maritime would use best endeavours to work with businesses to minimise impacts on convenience and service provision to residents"


Please explain what best endeavours have been used to date or what best endeavours are going to be used?


Section 10.3.2 -


"The proposal of all or part of one's property being acquired can be a daunting matter and requires careful management to minimise associated stress"


Please explain what careful management strategies you have implemented to minimise the stress of those being acquired.


"Early engagement with affected parties has begun and will continue to be sought in order to share information and to work cooperatively"


There has been no early engagement and all requests for information have been delayed or not responded to. Even our legal team cannot access your information from you up until now and are still awaiting responses to requests for information.


Section 10.4.3 -


"Forestway Shopping Centre is located only 700 metres walking distance.....the larger centre provides a range of comparable and alternative retail facilities including: Restaurants and take-away dining"


There are no restaurants in Forestway, they are all café and take away dining options and are closed after standard business hours. You are eliminating the only 4 restaurants in the vicinity of the hospital. Residents already have few restaurant options and again, with an increase in population and traffic, where are these essential services relocating to?


You have not mentioned the medical centre at Bantry Bay that has over 20,000 patients on the register!


"Finally, in place of the 7 Eleven service station, two alternative service stations are provided in the locality including a 1.5 kilometres the east (312 Warringah Road) and 1.5 kilometres west at 582 Warringah Road"


Firstly, the location of the 7 eleven is at the intersection of Warringah Rd and Wakehurst Parkway and are significant arterial roads. For commuters travelling from Seaforth, Dee Why or Narrabeen through to St Ives, this is the only service station on that side of the road for 18+ kilometres.


Secondly, have you driven past 312 Warringah Rd? It's a nice vacant block of land and has been since 2008, it is not a service station as you have stated.


We look forward to your response and the RMS taking our feedback into consideration in the assessment of Stage 2.


The Qasabians


Vic, Christine, Alex, Dina and Nadia

I understand the need to improve this road however the forest that would be cleared is an endangered ecological community and acts as a wildlife corridor for native fauna.
A terrestrial fauna wildlife bridge or underpass could solve the issue of lost connectivity and an overpass or underpass for traffic could reduce the need for widening the road.

Hi, I am writing for reconsideration of the removal of the bus stop located at Warringah Rd near Fitzpatrick ave.

Like many people do, I currently use that bus stop to catch my bus to work in the CBD five days a week and also to travel on the weekend. I have been using that bus stop for close to 10years now since my family moved to the area.

I understand that the removal of a bus stop is a insignificant factor in relative to the size of this whole project, but I could not let this happen without letting my thoughts known.

I do not drive on a daily basis but only when I need to, which leaves me to rely on public transport. I do not live in close proximity to the bus stop which leave me to walk approximately 20minutes to the bus stop. That means that I spend at least 40min walking to the bus stop and back everyday.
By removing the current bus stop I use, I am left to use the next stop at Maxwell Pde. Yes, it is only 220m from the current stop I use, but that means I am required to walk another extra 5min. And that means I will be spending at least an extra 25min a week to get to work. That makes me reconsider how I get to the bus stop. If the Fitzpatrick Ave bus stop was to be removed, I believe that many people will consider driving to the next bus stop which will require the residents to drive out onto Warringah Rd and then drive back into Maxwell Pde. This will cause more cars onto the main road causing more traffic as well as increased parking closer to the bus stop.
But this creates a new problem where I need to consider how I would cross Warringah Rd to get to my car when I come home. The assumption is that due to the new hospital there will be more traffic which will means that jay walking will not be an option.

I understand that the removal/relocation of the bus stop may be inevitable with the upgrades that I may actually benefit from, but all I ask is clarification of why and on what basis this decision was made, and any plans put into place to rectify situations like I have been put into.

Thank you

This email was sent to Hon. Brad Hazzard and CC RMS

Submission attached