Neil Mcgregor
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Neil Mcgregor
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NARRABEEN
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New South Wales
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1/ The height level of the project is excessive and severely impacts the amenity of the surrounding properties completely eliminating sunshine to them particularly in Loftus st.
2/ Increased traffic flow will increase the danger for the large number of children within our local community particularly those attending the local schools and child care facilities .
3/Council have already proposed installing speed humps and round a bouts in Ocean and Lagoon streets and lowering the speed limit to 40kph due to the already high volume of local traffic.
4/Side streets joining Ocean and Lagoon streets are very narrow and only allow one vehicle in either direction because of the high number of vehicles already parking on these streets. This project will only increase this parking problem.
5/ The scale of the project has to be reduced to a maximum of 3 floors and allow for sufficient onsite parking for residents (2 car spaces each) plus 20% visitors car spaces, so as to not increase the already congested streets in Narrabeen.
2/ Increased traffic flow will increase the danger for the large number of children within our local community particularly those attending the local schools and child care facilities .
3/Council have already proposed installing speed humps and round a bouts in Ocean and Lagoon streets and lowering the speed limit to 40kph due to the already high volume of local traffic.
4/Side streets joining Ocean and Lagoon streets are very narrow and only allow one vehicle in either direction because of the high number of vehicles already parking on these streets. This project will only increase this parking problem.
5/ The scale of the project has to be reduced to a maximum of 3 floors and allow for sufficient onsite parking for residents (2 car spaces each) plus 20% visitors car spaces, so as to not increase the already congested streets in Narrabeen.
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Manly
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New South Wales
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I object to the size of the proposed building. I do not want to see the overdevelopment of Narrabeen. Please preserve the character of the suburb. Do not sell it out for the financial benefit of developers.
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WARRIEWOOD
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New South Wales
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I don't understand how this proposal fits into the Planning System. All these new laws being legislated claim to be simplifying the Planning System, yet is just adding more & more layers of complexity.
I somewhat understand the new policies regarding Transport Oriented Developments & the Low-Mid Rise Development pathways, however this proposal at 156 Ocean Street Narrabeen is neither. If this proposal was within 800m of the government's nominated areas, then I could understand it & get onboard, but it isn't. This proposal is about 3km from the nearest nominated LMR area (Mona Vale) so it beggars belief as to how/why it can be considered. If developers have free reign to propose these develoments wherever they like, what is the point of the TOD/LMR legislation? It's one thing to undemine the public's confidence in the system, but this is undemining the government's very own legislation!
It is one thing to open up NSW Planning legislation to enable the fast tracking of new developments, but the suppport of the public & local communities is severely eroded when developers can simply upsize their proposals until it hits the Major Projects value threshold & bypass Local Council regulations that have been subject to extensive community consultation. It reeks of subterfuge & perceptions of corruption & back office deals will pervade the public's view of these proposals. What we need is a clear & unambiguous planning system where both the developers & general public know where/when new developments can occur & their typical size & scope. These "Major Projects" proposals are largely being viewed as a back door sneaky way to overdevelop otherwise non-conforming developments.
I also object to the addittional density permissibilities given to developments that incorporate affordable housing provisions. In general I support affordable housing, which is admirable in its objectives of ensuring that essential workers can afford to live in communities, however the 10 year limit severerly erodes these ideals. Who would feel comfortable moving into an affordable housing situation when they know that after 10 years they will be forced to move on, when the developers can finally sell the dwelling? The affodrable housing provisions are essentially giving free money to the developers, albeit being deferred for 10 years. The affordable housing provisions need to be made permanent upon these dwelling with a legally binding covenent upon the title, so that the essential workers in our community have assurances & are not treated like itinerants every 10 years. This housing affordability crisis is not going to be solved in 10 years.
Also, if these type of proposals are being accepted in any location, how does this affect infrastructure planning? All schools, roads, hospitals, utilities & emergency service administrations plan & prepare their future requiremnts several years in advance. This is relatively a simple forecasting task using population projections knowing where future growth is likely to occur, but this willy-nilly approach where developers can propose anything anywhere will severly undermine the future livability of communities. Infrastructure shortcomings are highly likey to occur with this lack of proper planning.
As a result I totally object to this development proceeding. It is out of place with the legislation & corrupts the planning process established for the benefit & assurances of the community & developers.
I somewhat understand the new policies regarding Transport Oriented Developments & the Low-Mid Rise Development pathways, however this proposal at 156 Ocean Street Narrabeen is neither. If this proposal was within 800m of the government's nominated areas, then I could understand it & get onboard, but it isn't. This proposal is about 3km from the nearest nominated LMR area (Mona Vale) so it beggars belief as to how/why it can be considered. If developers have free reign to propose these develoments wherever they like, what is the point of the TOD/LMR legislation? It's one thing to undemine the public's confidence in the system, but this is undemining the government's very own legislation!
It is one thing to open up NSW Planning legislation to enable the fast tracking of new developments, but the suppport of the public & local communities is severely eroded when developers can simply upsize their proposals until it hits the Major Projects value threshold & bypass Local Council regulations that have been subject to extensive community consultation. It reeks of subterfuge & perceptions of corruption & back office deals will pervade the public's view of these proposals. What we need is a clear & unambiguous planning system where both the developers & general public know where/when new developments can occur & their typical size & scope. These "Major Projects" proposals are largely being viewed as a back door sneaky way to overdevelop otherwise non-conforming developments.
I also object to the addittional density permissibilities given to developments that incorporate affordable housing provisions. In general I support affordable housing, which is admirable in its objectives of ensuring that essential workers can afford to live in communities, however the 10 year limit severerly erodes these ideals. Who would feel comfortable moving into an affordable housing situation when they know that after 10 years they will be forced to move on, when the developers can finally sell the dwelling? The affodrable housing provisions are essentially giving free money to the developers, albeit being deferred for 10 years. The affordable housing provisions need to be made permanent upon these dwelling with a legally binding covenent upon the title, so that the essential workers in our community have assurances & are not treated like itinerants every 10 years. This housing affordability crisis is not going to be solved in 10 years.
Also, if these type of proposals are being accepted in any location, how does this affect infrastructure planning? All schools, roads, hospitals, utilities & emergency service administrations plan & prepare their future requiremnts several years in advance. This is relatively a simple forecasting task using population projections knowing where future growth is likely to occur, but this willy-nilly approach where developers can propose anything anywhere will severly undermine the future livability of communities. Infrastructure shortcomings are highly likey to occur with this lack of proper planning.
As a result I totally object to this development proceeding. It is out of place with the legislation & corrupts the planning process established for the benefit & assurances of the community & developers.
Gabriela Zveibil Fraga
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Gabriela Zveibil Fraga
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narrabeen
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New South Wales
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no community benefit. over development. traffic and safety hazards. this little street cannot support such a big development, this will bring over 300 vehicles, there is risk of flooding and environmental destruction. the community does NOT support this development.
Jack Gillies
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Jack Gillies
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NARRABEEN
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New South Wales
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Parking is already hard enough to find on this street and the road is congested all the time. There doesn’t seem to be ample solution to parking or catering for guests and we don’t want narrabeen to be turned into the gold coast. This isn’t the right construction for this area and I feel minimal thought has gone into traffic flow and parking and is just a money grab
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NARRABEEN
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New South Wales
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As a resident living directly on Lagoon St, I have a critical and immediate view on the proposed development. The scale, bulk, and design of this project will directly and permanently impact the character, amenity, and environment of our street and local area.
The proposal includes significant, deep excavation for a 3-level basement car park. This area is known to be situated over or near a high natural water table, given its proximity to the coast and lagoon.
Digging so deeply into the water table presents a severe and unacceptable risk of settlement, structural instability, and cracking to adjoining residential properties. The interruption of natural groundwater flow is a major geotechnical hazard that must be fully asessed.
Deep excavation can disturb acid sulfate soils or push contaminants into the surrounding groundwater system. This poses a direct environmental risk to the local ecosystem and the broader aquatic health of the lagoon.
Any dewatering required during construction to manage groundwater infiltration will introduce noise, truck movements, and potentially alter the water table level in a manner that affects mature street trees and existing foundations.
The proposed five-storey structure with 149 Independent Living Units is grossly excessive in scale and bulk compared to the surrounding residential fabric of Lagoon and Ocean St.
The height and sheer mass of the structure will create an over-dominance that fundamentally changes the streetscape and diminishes the existing low-density character of the area.
The bulk will inevitably result in significant loss of sunlight to neighbouring properties and public areas, and an unnecessary loss of privacy and views for local residents.
The three-level basement with 192 car spaces highlights the residential intensity. Despite the ILU status, this volume of traffic generation will place undue strain on our narrow local streets, particularly on Lagoon and Ocean St during peak visitation and construction periods.
I concur with community concerns that the proposal is strategically structured to exploit Seniors Housing planning legislation (SEPP). The core of this issue is:
- The ratio of 149 Independent Living Units (luxury residential apartments) to a mere 10 Residential Aged Care beds demonstrates that the primary function of the development is profit-driven high-density housing, not the provision of essential community aged care.
- The Applicant is seeking significant Floor Space Ratio (FSR) bonuses designed to encourage the delivery of care infrastructure, yet they are providing a minimal fraction of the necessary care beds. This abuse of the incentive renders the resultant scale and bulk inappropriate for the site.
I strongly to this DA. The risks associated with the deep basement excavation into the water table, coupled with the inappropriate bulk and scale of a project that fundamentally misuses planning mechanisms, make this proposal untenable. The Council and NSW government must uphold its duty to protect the local amenity and environment by refusing the application.
The proposal includes significant, deep excavation for a 3-level basement car park. This area is known to be situated over or near a high natural water table, given its proximity to the coast and lagoon.
Digging so deeply into the water table presents a severe and unacceptable risk of settlement, structural instability, and cracking to adjoining residential properties. The interruption of natural groundwater flow is a major geotechnical hazard that must be fully asessed.
Deep excavation can disturb acid sulfate soils or push contaminants into the surrounding groundwater system. This poses a direct environmental risk to the local ecosystem and the broader aquatic health of the lagoon.
Any dewatering required during construction to manage groundwater infiltration will introduce noise, truck movements, and potentially alter the water table level in a manner that affects mature street trees and existing foundations.
The proposed five-storey structure with 149 Independent Living Units is grossly excessive in scale and bulk compared to the surrounding residential fabric of Lagoon and Ocean St.
The height and sheer mass of the structure will create an over-dominance that fundamentally changes the streetscape and diminishes the existing low-density character of the area.
The bulk will inevitably result in significant loss of sunlight to neighbouring properties and public areas, and an unnecessary loss of privacy and views for local residents.
The three-level basement with 192 car spaces highlights the residential intensity. Despite the ILU status, this volume of traffic generation will place undue strain on our narrow local streets, particularly on Lagoon and Ocean St during peak visitation and construction periods.
I concur with community concerns that the proposal is strategically structured to exploit Seniors Housing planning legislation (SEPP). The core of this issue is:
- The ratio of 149 Independent Living Units (luxury residential apartments) to a mere 10 Residential Aged Care beds demonstrates that the primary function of the development is profit-driven high-density housing, not the provision of essential community aged care.
- The Applicant is seeking significant Floor Space Ratio (FSR) bonuses designed to encourage the delivery of care infrastructure, yet they are providing a minimal fraction of the necessary care beds. This abuse of the incentive renders the resultant scale and bulk inappropriate for the site.
I strongly to this DA. The risks associated with the deep basement excavation into the water table, coupled with the inappropriate bulk and scale of a project that fundamentally misuses planning mechanisms, make this proposal untenable. The Council and NSW government must uphold its duty to protect the local amenity and environment by refusing the application.
Quintin Wakeford
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Quintin Wakeford
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Narrabeen
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New South Wales
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Not in community interest
Stephen Patten
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Stephen Patten
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DEE WHY
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New South Wales
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Objection to Proposed Development
The surrounding area is predominantly residential, consisting mainly of low- to medium-density housing. The existing neighborhood character is defined by a mix of single-family homes, older and newer townhouses, and small-scale residential flat buildings.
The proposed development, at five storeys in height, is out of scale and inconsistent with the established built form and character of the area. Such a large structure would visually dominate the streetscape and set an undesirable precedent for future development.
There is also inadequate provision for off-street parking. The proposal includes 149 residential units with 192 car parking spaces and only 7 designated visitor spaces. This shortfall will inevitably lead to overflow parking on surrounding streets, further increasing congestion and reducing amenity for existing residents.
In addition, the increase in traffic generated by a development of this size will place significant pressure on the local road network, impacting safety and accessibility for residents and pedestrians alike.
The development also raises concerns regarding housing affordability and community composition. With an estimated price point of approximately $3 million per unit, the proposal does not contribute to the provision of affordable or diverse housing options but instead promotes high-end, luxury living inconsistent with community needs.
Finally, construction impacts from a project of this scale — including noise, dust, and disruption to local traffic — will have a substantial negative effect on the local community for an extended period.
The surrounding area is predominantly residential, consisting mainly of low- to medium-density housing. The existing neighborhood character is defined by a mix of single-family homes, older and newer townhouses, and small-scale residential flat buildings.
The proposed development, at five storeys in height, is out of scale and inconsistent with the established built form and character of the area. Such a large structure would visually dominate the streetscape and set an undesirable precedent for future development.
There is also inadequate provision for off-street parking. The proposal includes 149 residential units with 192 car parking spaces and only 7 designated visitor spaces. This shortfall will inevitably lead to overflow parking on surrounding streets, further increasing congestion and reducing amenity for existing residents.
In addition, the increase in traffic generated by a development of this size will place significant pressure on the local road network, impacting safety and accessibility for residents and pedestrians alike.
The development also raises concerns regarding housing affordability and community composition. With an estimated price point of approximately $3 million per unit, the proposal does not contribute to the provision of affordable or diverse housing options but instead promotes high-end, luxury living inconsistent with community needs.
Finally, construction impacts from a project of this scale — including noise, dust, and disruption to local traffic — will have a substantial negative effect on the local community for an extended period.
Michael Peters
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Michael Peters
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HURLSTONE PARK
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New South Wales
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The project is not in line with the local community the beach the natural environment and ecology. Anything North of Collaroy should be preserved from high density development. The locals are against it and people outside the area like myself dont want Narrabeen ruined by greedy developers
Scott Moran
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Scott Moran
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Narrabeen
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New South Wales
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Narrabeen at present retains a coastal village vibe.This development will definitely impact the area visually bringing with it the potential for future development in line with Dee Why!