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1) Major concern with traffic and pedestrian management in the Crimson Hill area and in particular on Eton Rd. Traffic comes around the Cnr. at Eton road into Crimson Hill very fast. School Zone is poorly marked with the sign on the RHS of the road making hard to spot, 40km limit hardly adhered too. Speed traps are needed throughout the area urgently. When we out and about its rare that cars stop at the crossings, there are lots of kids in the area it's very dangerous had number bad experiences already. Clearly marked and raised crossings are needed.

2) Eton and Abington road allows cars to be parked on both sides, during peak there are lines of cars trying to move through in one line. Cars speed through the back streets to get to Pacific Highway having to stop abruptly is common.

3) Parking - there is clearly insufficient parking in the area mainly due to the very high use of the soccer field. Cars are parking in front of the school, in the visitors parking at Tubbs View on Private Property, on top of the fire hydrant areas in front of LLV blocking access to them completely. When the sire at Roxy place is developed where will they all park? On the weekend there can be 50 + cars easily with many others speeding around the area looking for parking.

4) Fire safety, this is a high risk fire zone. With a school capacity of 1000 students + the large number of residents it's very concerning to think all these people are going to make it one way out on Eton Rd. The current road system is not effective to manage this traffic.

5) The proposed Bus terminal in LLV will now have buses going down the narrow section of Eton Road creating noise for residents at Tubbs View. Its moves the loop road from Dunstan Grove now creating a problem at Tubbs View. The Extra cars will also add significant noise. During peak its hard and dangerous to exit Tubbs View onto Eton Rd. due to the already high volume of traffic. How will residents at Tubbs View safely exit with this constant flow of busses and cars through such a narrow section of road?

This area is highly congested and has a number of problems, right now they are traffic, parking and dangerous conditions for pedestrians and children. Please consider the submissions, residents in the area are concerned to say the least.

Thank you.

Hi
As you are aware, your amendment has a couple of concerns about the impact on traffic around Lindfield Learning Village once built. Here are some suggestions to minimise the traffic on the school
1. Allow different time frames: As about 2000 students enter and leave the school every day, it would be chaotic. And as the drop off would be pack and also parking, we need to minimse the amount of cars coming in and out on just 1 road. One suggestion could be allowing different time frames when dismissing and starting school by at least 10 mins. This should be by stage.
2. Allowing school buses for not just Lindfield Learning Village students: Some students who don't study at Lindfield Learning Village and live on the planned school bus route or near the school might be needing the bus to go to their school such as Chatswood High and Primary students (as your planned bus route stops at Chatswood Interchange, it would be more convenient for them) cause they're in an OC or a selective school class. Your bus arrangements also goes around Beaumont Road Public School catchment and would be best if those students can use it too to travel to their school. This would provide convenience for students who live around Killara, Lindfield , Roseville, Chatswood and other suburbs that can take pressure from buses or trains.
3. Building the metro: Although costly, it would have benefits. An example would be like Chatswood High and Primary. Both schools add up to at least 2000 students and at least half of the students take the train. However the area is congested, without the train station at the school, it might cause a lot of congestion on Eton Road. The station could be accessible for people who will be wanting to go to Lane Cove National Park. It would take pressure off the T1 line and people living there will probably be catching the metro making it even more convenient when the Sydney Metro Southwest is completed.

Recommendations:
- Build the metro station
- Provide school buses for not just the planned school but for the students who live around the school but go to Chatswood High or Primary and also for Beaumont Road Public School Students
-Provide more parking spaces for other events and for parents who have young kids
- Allow different time frames for student to be dismiss and starting school
- Upgrade Lady Game Drive from the A38 route intersection towards the Grosvenor Road Roundabout
- No Stopping on Eton Road during school hours from Austral Avenue

The project proposal as it stands still does not address the key issues that was highlighted by people including myself in previous submissions.

This includes the key issue of major traffic bottlenecks and risks to life in the event of a bush fire evacuation. It is not feasible to evacuate thousands of students, staff and residents in the neighborhood (this includes Tubbs View, Shout Ridge, Dunstan Grove, Barton Place and Hamilton Corner and the residential construction in progress in Roxy Place) whose only access road is Eton Road. The approach of shifting responsibility for this major risk to other Govt Departments in the revised proposal does not solve the problem. The reality is until we have an acceptable solution to this risk, the Lindfield Learning Village is just not viable. The bush fire evacuation plan seems to assume that people will evacuate by foot to safe areas. THAT IS REALLY PUTTING PEOPLES AND KIDS LIFE AT RISK.

There is going to be perpetual traffic bottleneck during peak hours in Eton Road, Abingdon Road, Shirely Road, Grosvenor Road and the Lady Game Road/Grosvenor Road roundabout intersection. Some of these are already bottlenecks. This is going to get lot worse when thousands of additional students and staff need to get in and out of school during peak hours. Again this issue was highlighted by many including myself in the previous submissions. I dont see this being addressed in the current. The buck has been passed to other government departments who have not come up with any solution either, other than saying WE WILL LOOK INTO IT. This project, important as it is, cannot go ahead on the basis of such a useless response.

The revised bus drop off and pick up approach roads effectively shifts the traffic noise, congestion and bus emission air pollution problem from Dunstan Grove (in the previous proposal) to Tubbs View. All I see in the revised proposal is a blank statement "the impact on Tubbs View residents will be within acceptable limits". Whose acceptable limits, what analysis has been done to make this claim. The analysis has either not been done or if done, cannot be seen in the proposal documents.

There is currently a major car park problem when there are sports events in the Charles Bean Oval with residents illegally parking in private areas and in constuction sites in Roxy Place. This will already get worse whe the constructions are completed and closed off for public access. This problem has been highlighted previously and has still not been addressed. Basic solution like having more frequent bus transport (route 565) are still not being considered. Add to this existing mess thousands of students and staff looking for additional car park, we have a disaster. It is not sufficient for the revised Learning Village project proposal to say "We do not intend to use the Charles Bean Oval, therefore it is not our problem". Well it is a problem for the public and the State Govt needs to address this issue before giving a GO AHEAD to this project.

In summary a holistic approach is required across all involved Government Departments in respect of this project. At the moment all we see are piece meal incomplete proposals. Cannot be a basis for approving such vital projects.

To whom it may concern,

I would like to express my concerns in regards to the Phase 2 and 3 LLV, my concerns are mainly on the traffic and transportation arrangement for students, parents and staffs.

I have had made comments previously however the responses from the LLV team doesn't actually resolve the issues fully, instead the responses have a lots of shifting around the existing issues, ie. relsoving one issue but creating another issue somewhere else.

Most of the proposed solution to the comments regarding the traffic and transportation are still developing and have no confirm agreement with the council or school, some responses are simply saying "noted" what does that mean? what are the proposed solution?

The council has already picked up lots of issues that are not feasible to have a school with such large number of students ie. 2000, there is no way a school at this location at the end of Eton road with no other alternative routes back to the main road (Pacific Hwy and Lady Game Road), the only routes are Eton, Grosvenor road. The responses have mentioned alternative routes, what are they?

It also noted that some parents will be travelling with the children in the shuttle bus, does that mean more buses will be required? This is another example of shifting the issues around, the bus calculation was based on students use only then other response has noted parent will be travelling with students?

There is no solution to resolve the problem of the bottleneck at the Pacific Highway/Grosvenor Road intersection, the traffic light at this intersection will only allow less than 10 cars at each change of light. Traffic will build up on Grosvenor road and would extend all the way to Eton road near Crimson Hill let alone there is already traffic issues at this intersection because of the Lindfield Public School. The response from LLV team noted that this is no longer applicable because of the loop road amendment however the fact is that the number of cars and buses remain unchanged. Therefore the problem is still exist and seems to me that council and traffic authority does not have any agreement with LLV that will resolve this issue.

With the increased amount of traffic travelling to school on Eton road, residents trying to get out of their streets to Eton road would be really hard at the peak hours, I am surprised that the traffic report says that there will be no issue for residents getting in and out from Shout Ridge, Hamilton Corner and Dunstan Grove. How is that possible when you have 300+ cars and 14 buses at peak hours and the only road to get to LLV is through Eton Road? And residents from Shout Ridge, Hamilton Corner and Dunstan Grove all getting in and out on the same and only road ie. Eton Road.

Illegal parking issue has already been happening with parents and students parking at the nearby residential visitor parking at Tubbs View and also communal parking near the playing field. In some cases, their cars parked there all day. The response mentioned LLV will not provide parking for student so the problem with students parking in the nearby residential visitor parking will surely be happening.

As I previously commented on the first submission, I personally has no objection to the proposed school, I think it is a beautiful project and good for the children however proposed 2000 students school at a location at the end of the road which is so far away from the main public transport and main road has created many issues for the residents in the area and the impacts on the residents is beyond acceptable.
Based on LLV team responses, many proposed solutions in terms of travelling plan, traffic control (not local traffic but the routes extend to the main road Pacific Hwy,

Lady Game Road are still in consultation and development or ignored, what would happen if LLV in full operation and the issues mentioned by the communities have happened? Who would be responsible for that? The proposed modification has only moving things around within the LLV site, it does not actually resolve the major issues which is the traffic and transportation arrangement.

Regards

Hi,
The revised plan does not address any concern I raised in my previous submission.
It is almost certain that opening of Lindfield Learning Village will have a direct impact to traffic around the area, in particular the intersections of Lady Game Drive/Fullers Road, Lady Game Drive, Ryde Road Pacific Highway/Grosvenor Road. It is imperative to improve the roads around the area prior to the opening of stage 2 and 3 otherwise it will result in massive traffic gridlock.
Due to Covid19, more parents are dropping/picking up their kids before and after school. This has put significant strain to the already congested roads around school. The traffic model put together in the report may not be relevant anymore. In particular, Lindfield Learning Village is located in the southern end of Eton Road (there is only 1 entrance and exit). It is not easily accessible by students other than cars or buses. The cars usage will increase significantly during poor weather. The roads around Lindfield Learning Village is not able to cope with the sudden increase in traffic. I am very concern the revised report does not provide any plan on how to improve the traffic around the area. (except with the note indicating this was discussed in the RtS report with measures taken where possible to provide mitigations. )
To highlight the extent of the issue, attached screenshot (LindfieldTraffic.pdf) was taken from traffic google map at 8:53am on Tuesday 21st July. It can be seen traffic on Lady Game Drive was heavily congested when the students returned on the first school day in Term 3. Similar problem occurred along Grosvenor Road due to parents dropping off at Lindfield Public School. This is despite majority of the people are working from home already (traffic is down by at least 10%). Do you really think Lindfield Learning Village with the capability to accept more than 1000 students are able to cope with the increased in traffic in the area? If there is 30% of students traveled to school by car, that is equivalent to 300 additional cars in that area. Given the location of the school can only be entered/exited via Eton Road, i can not see the current road can cope with the increase in traffic. Grosvenor Road will be heavily congested as it will be the main road for users to enter and leave the area. North of Grosvenor Road will be heavily congested due to Lindfield Public School and Pacific Highway intersection (Currently, traffic is already backed past Lumeah Road in the morning, this will only get worse). South of Grosvenor Road will be heavily congested due to Lady Game Road intersection caused by the traffic on the Millwood Ave intersection (as highlighted in your report). This problem will not go away and it will only get worse as more residential development (potentially additional 100 cars) are to be completed at Eton Road and Roxy Place in the next few years. This will result in major traffic gridlock in the area. The locals who currently live in the area will be the ones suffering by the poor planning as the result of the new school. I don't think anyone want to see this from happening.

In addition, the car parking is another major concern. As highlighted in my previous submission, there is already a major parking issue around Charles Bean Oval. This Oval does not equip with sufficient car spaces. This is apparent each time when there is an event held at Charles Bean Oval. The attached photo (RoxyPlace_Parking.pdf) was taken at Roxy Place on Sunday 19th July 2020. There were more than 100 cars parked at the vacant land at Roxy Place. I am not sure where will these cars be parked once the residential development at Roxy Place is completed. Again we are only referring to 1 event at Charles Bean Oval. What happens if there are multiple events at the school? (eg. Parent Teacher night, Disco, Dance, Graduation night, Education week etc) Where will the parents be parking the car? I know there is on site parking at school. But do you think the current 166 marked parking spaces (shared with the teaching staff) are able to cope with this type of function? What happens if there are events held at Charles Bean Oval and School at the same time? There is simply not enough marked car spaces around the area to support this type of infrastructure.

Hence I don't think stage 2/stage 3 should proceed unless there is a plan to address the increased in traffic around the area.
Here are some suggestions
- Construct second entrance/exit on the southern end of the school - (ie. linking to Millwood Ave) to alleviate the traffic on Eton Road. This will give great benefit to people who live on the southern end of the school (eg. Chatswood West, North Ryde). As the result, less buses/cars are required to use Grosvenor Road/Eton Road to enter/exit from the school. The second entrance will provide big benefits as more students will be able to walk to school from Chatswood/Chatswood West.
- Upgrade intersection Lady Game Drive/Fullers Road, Lady Game Drive, Ryde Road Pacific Highway/Grosvenor Road immediately to relive the traffic around the area (this is already an existing issue, and will become worse when the school increases the enrollments and residential development around the school is completed)
- Provide additional car spaces on the Southern end of the school ( to alleviate the parking issue around Charles Bean Oval
- School should only accept enrollment for students live around Lindfield (bounded by South/West of Pacific Highway, East of Ryde Road/Lady Game Drive, North of Millwood Ave) to limit the needs of cars/buses entering the school. (until the traffic issue is addressed)