Luke Meadows
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Luke Meadows
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INGLESIDE
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New South Wales
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6 story development does not fit in with aesthetic appeal of area. Council does not allow more than 2 story development in area for over 20 years this development shouldn't be exempt. Northern Beach Council development control plan does not allow developments of this scale, this should not be overruled. The location is a sand island, geology of land does not support this scale of development. Development would impact local wildlife. Already too much traffic on Ocean St. Will require removal of heritage listed nonfolk island pines. Underground carparks would flood on regular basis. Plenty of other land in Sydney area fit for development of this type. Would create shade for other residence and fauna and flora. The list goes on and on...............
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NARRABEEN
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New South Wales
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The project will worsen traffic in an already congested area, increase flood risk in a known flood zone, and is out of character with Narrabeen’s established landscape. The removal of native pine trees will also disrupt local ecosystems and harm wildlife habitats, showing a disregard for environmental preservation. The approval of this project would set an undesirable precedent for further inappropriate development that would permanently alter the area’s character and community.
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Narrabeen
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New South Wales
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I, the undersigned resident, oppose the proposed oceanfront development that includes no setback from the shoreline, as it is entirely out of scale with Narrabeen’s low-rise character. This development would not only block treasured coastal views but also lead to the removal of established trees that are essential to the natural beauty and ecological health of our foreshore. I urge the planning authorities to reconsider and insist on a design that respects Narrabeen’s established, low-rise coastal character, preserves public view corridors, and safeguards our mature trees. Our coastline’s unique charm and community character must take precedence over inappropriate, oversized development.
Bryce Chapman
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NARRABEEN
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New South Wales
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Parking will be negatively affected by this development in an area already struggling for parking.
The 6 floor height is out of character to this small beachside strip.
The roads in Narrabeen are already congested and will not cope with this additional number of vehicles.
The local parking area at the Woolworths Narrabeen will not cope with the additional residents.
Emergency exit will be compromised in the event of an emergency along Ocean and Lagoon streets.
The impact of have 6 stories in this area will negatively impact the rest of Narrabeen and Elanora Heights
The 6 floor height is out of character to this small beachside strip.
The roads in Narrabeen are already congested and will not cope with this additional number of vehicles.
The local parking area at the Woolworths Narrabeen will not cope with the additional residents.
Emergency exit will be compromised in the event of an emergency along Ocean and Lagoon streets.
The impact of have 6 stories in this area will negatively impact the rest of Narrabeen and Elanora Heights
Cheryl Nunn
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Cheryl Nunn
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NARRABEEN
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New South Wales
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I have lived in Narrabeen since 1989 and the Northern Beaches LGA since 1972. I owned a property opposite 156 Ocean St in 66 Lagoon St Narrabeen for 17 years. I have seen and experienced many changes in that time. The population has increased dramatically along the Ocean St peninsular in that time from single story dwellings to 3 story flats but nothing over that height limit.
The resultant congestion on roads, shopping centres, parks and beaches has reduces the quality of life in our suburb. Our roads remain the same and are now in bad repair and not fit for purpose due to flooding, potholes and extreme traffic congestion. Adding more than 192 car spaces and 149 independent living units will contribute to this congestion.
The Northern Beaches LGA has more senior living facilities than most other LGAs. I consider the residents have more than pulled their weight with increasing density over these years.
The geography of the area, a peninsula of land comprising mainly sand dunes is unsuitable for the height and bulk of the proposed development let alone the excavation to accommodate 3 levels of underground parking which would be subject to inundation as this part of the peninsula is low lying.
The existing parking facilities on Ocean and Lagoon streets during summer is exhausted now. The proposed development does not provide enough visitor parking. The local Woolworths is not a major store and parking at the local shops and Post Office is difficult to obtain now. With an increase of this amount of residents and also no banking facilities, the suburb is at capacity.
The increased vehicle movements by 149 independent living units will create unusual noise and
Vehicle emissions to those currently or previously experienced by the previous retirement / care home. The ambience of the area is one of calm and natural beauty with manly pine trees, palms and eucalypts attracting birds.
This peninsula has been limited to 3 stories and should remain so to keep the atmosphere and natural beach and lakeside setting. To have an edifice of this magnitude towering over the surrounding homes is a disruption to the ambience of the area that all residents love and respect.
The precedent of the height of the proposed development could, if approved, could result in our suburb resembling the Gold Coast or Dee Why with shadowing of neighbours in adjoining streets and destroying the tropical nature of the strip. I do not want to see a building higher than the pines or palm trees.
The low scale of the existing buildings and surrounding gardens compliment the area any any new development should coalesce with its surrounds.
I have loved living in Narrabeen with its proximity to the sea, lake, National parks, Pittwater and Middle Harbour. Please do not allow this development to proceed. It should not be of State Significance as it offends our suburb with its scale, height and bulk and unattractive architectural design. I think the only sig ificance in the development application is its hideous appearance, not a quality desirable in planning.
The resultant congestion on roads, shopping centres, parks and beaches has reduces the quality of life in our suburb. Our roads remain the same and are now in bad repair and not fit for purpose due to flooding, potholes and extreme traffic congestion. Adding more than 192 car spaces and 149 independent living units will contribute to this congestion.
The Northern Beaches LGA has more senior living facilities than most other LGAs. I consider the residents have more than pulled their weight with increasing density over these years.
The geography of the area, a peninsula of land comprising mainly sand dunes is unsuitable for the height and bulk of the proposed development let alone the excavation to accommodate 3 levels of underground parking which would be subject to inundation as this part of the peninsula is low lying.
The existing parking facilities on Ocean and Lagoon streets during summer is exhausted now. The proposed development does not provide enough visitor parking. The local Woolworths is not a major store and parking at the local shops and Post Office is difficult to obtain now. With an increase of this amount of residents and also no banking facilities, the suburb is at capacity.
The increased vehicle movements by 149 independent living units will create unusual noise and
Vehicle emissions to those currently or previously experienced by the previous retirement / care home. The ambience of the area is one of calm and natural beauty with manly pine trees, palms and eucalypts attracting birds.
This peninsula has been limited to 3 stories and should remain so to keep the atmosphere and natural beach and lakeside setting. To have an edifice of this magnitude towering over the surrounding homes is a disruption to the ambience of the area that all residents love and respect.
The precedent of the height of the proposed development could, if approved, could result in our suburb resembling the Gold Coast or Dee Why with shadowing of neighbours in adjoining streets and destroying the tropical nature of the strip. I do not want to see a building higher than the pines or palm trees.
The low scale of the existing buildings and surrounding gardens compliment the area any any new development should coalesce with its surrounds.
I have loved living in Narrabeen with its proximity to the sea, lake, National parks, Pittwater and Middle Harbour. Please do not allow this development to proceed. It should not be of State Significance as it offends our suburb with its scale, height and bulk and unattractive architectural design. I think the only sig ificance in the development application is its hideous appearance, not a quality desirable in planning.
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NARRABEEN
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New South Wales
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To whom it may concern,
As property owners of a house in Narrabeen we object to the proposed development at 156-164 Ocean Street Narrabeen (SSD-76220734).
We are concerned that the proposed development will adversely affect the:
o Visual obstruction and overdevelopment
o Aboriginal heritage sensitivity
o Removal of mature native pine trees
o Traffic and safety risks
o The area also likely to be subject to significant dune erosion over the due to sea level rise and any development on this sandy spit should be kept to a bare minimum to protect the surroundings.
o This development is well outside the local street scale of the area. It also does not improve any amenity in the local area. its very Inappropriate.
The sheer size of the development—reaching up to 20 meters—poses visual obstruction and is undeniably an overdevelopment of the area. Hundreds of residents living on the escarpment will face the direct consequences, as their once unobstructed views and community ambiance will be overwhelmed by this towering structure.
There are serious practical concerns, too, especially regarding traffic and safety. The increased population density stemming from this development will exacerbate an already struggling local traffic system. We are also concerned that the parking allocation for the new development is not sufficient. We currently experience parking problems in Narrabeen for residents, particularly from visitors to the location. This development will result in more vehicles from an increased number of residents and their visitors.
This situation is further compounded by the apparent lack of genuine community consultation. A mere 14-day window provided to object to such significant changes is woefully inadequate, showing a clear attempt to bypass local regulations and community input. Effective decision-making requires engaging with and respecting the voices of local residents, not circumventing them.
Indigo by Moran has also intentionally based their proposed development application with incorrect, misleading and deceptive information regarding, heritage impact, traffic, visual pollution, visual loss, social engagement, comparison of height between existing buildings and their building proposal, etc.
We urge local decision-makers and relevant authorities to rethink this proposal, ensuring that any development aligns with the town's environmental sustainability, heritage appreciation, and community consensus.
Kind Regards,
Local Resident Narrabeen
As property owners of a house in Narrabeen we object to the proposed development at 156-164 Ocean Street Narrabeen (SSD-76220734).
We are concerned that the proposed development will adversely affect the:
o Visual obstruction and overdevelopment
o Aboriginal heritage sensitivity
o Removal of mature native pine trees
o Traffic and safety risks
o The area also likely to be subject to significant dune erosion over the due to sea level rise and any development on this sandy spit should be kept to a bare minimum to protect the surroundings.
o This development is well outside the local street scale of the area. It also does not improve any amenity in the local area. its very Inappropriate.
The sheer size of the development—reaching up to 20 meters—poses visual obstruction and is undeniably an overdevelopment of the area. Hundreds of residents living on the escarpment will face the direct consequences, as their once unobstructed views and community ambiance will be overwhelmed by this towering structure.
There are serious practical concerns, too, especially regarding traffic and safety. The increased population density stemming from this development will exacerbate an already struggling local traffic system. We are also concerned that the parking allocation for the new development is not sufficient. We currently experience parking problems in Narrabeen for residents, particularly from visitors to the location. This development will result in more vehicles from an increased number of residents and their visitors.
This situation is further compounded by the apparent lack of genuine community consultation. A mere 14-day window provided to object to such significant changes is woefully inadequate, showing a clear attempt to bypass local regulations and community input. Effective decision-making requires engaging with and respecting the voices of local residents, not circumventing them.
Indigo by Moran has also intentionally based their proposed development application with incorrect, misleading and deceptive information regarding, heritage impact, traffic, visual pollution, visual loss, social engagement, comparison of height between existing buildings and their building proposal, etc.
We urge local decision-makers and relevant authorities to rethink this proposal, ensuring that any development aligns with the town's environmental sustainability, heritage appreciation, and community consensus.
Kind Regards,
Local Resident Narrabeen
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NARRABEEN
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New South Wales
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To: Secretary, DPHI
Objection to SSD-76220734- 154 Ocean St Narrabeen
I reside at 106 Ocean Street, Narrabeen and the scale of this proposed development will negatively impact Ocean St and neighbouring streets in the following ways:-
INCOMPATIBILITY
The sheer scale of this development, which spans the length of Ocean St, Loftus, Lagoon & Octavia Streets is TOTALLY out of character with Narrabeen village and Ocean st which is a low rise beachside community. This is so in terms of height, 6 storeys rising to 21.5 metres and the footprint of the entire complex. It will dwarf surrounding properties and create significant overshadowing for the surrounding properties which are single homes or low-rise apartments.
UNSUITABILITY
This development does nothing to create affordable housing for young people OR the elderly. At starting prices of $3m, these apartments will cater to an elite group of seniors only and the provision of a 10 bed residential care facility - compared with 149 units is totally inadequate to cater for the real needs of an aging population. It is noted that an existing residential care facility that can cater for this is being demolished !
The development has been designed without local consultation or local feedback.
There are concerns regarding the excavation to 11.5m below ground level, which will intrude into the local water table and the composition of the earth is largely sand and is located in a flood and erosion zone.
The scale of this development will see the removal of many mature trees which are home to many birds and local wildlife.
TRAFFIC/ACCESIBILITY
Ocean st is already a VERY busy and congested street, as it is used as a thoroughfare to Mona Vale to the north and Dee Why to the south. Personally, I experience significant difficulty, danger and delay each morning, when entering Ocean St from our driveway as there is a continuous stream of cars. The addition of 149 units (potentially another 300 odd cars as most households possess 2 cars) will greatly increase traffic congestion and pose a danger to school children (St Josephs School in Ocean St), mothers & fathers with prams & young children, pushbike riders and older walkers - all trying to cross the road.
Parking is already at critical levels on Ocean St. The addition of 149 units, with only 192 car spaces will further exacerbate this situation. The provision of just 7 visitor spaces is WOEFULLY inadequate.
I do not oppose the building of a seniors complex outright, but I DO OPPOSE THIS APPLICATION due to its proposed extreme overdevelopment of the site.
Further consultation and time are needed to consider this development and scale it back to an acceptable level.
We should not be agreeing to this level of development which will destroy the amenity of our beautiful suburb and merely line the pockets of developers.
Objection to SSD-76220734- 154 Ocean St Narrabeen
I reside at 106 Ocean Street, Narrabeen and the scale of this proposed development will negatively impact Ocean St and neighbouring streets in the following ways:-
INCOMPATIBILITY
The sheer scale of this development, which spans the length of Ocean St, Loftus, Lagoon & Octavia Streets is TOTALLY out of character with Narrabeen village and Ocean st which is a low rise beachside community. This is so in terms of height, 6 storeys rising to 21.5 metres and the footprint of the entire complex. It will dwarf surrounding properties and create significant overshadowing for the surrounding properties which are single homes or low-rise apartments.
UNSUITABILITY
This development does nothing to create affordable housing for young people OR the elderly. At starting prices of $3m, these apartments will cater to an elite group of seniors only and the provision of a 10 bed residential care facility - compared with 149 units is totally inadequate to cater for the real needs of an aging population. It is noted that an existing residential care facility that can cater for this is being demolished !
The development has been designed without local consultation or local feedback.
There are concerns regarding the excavation to 11.5m below ground level, which will intrude into the local water table and the composition of the earth is largely sand and is located in a flood and erosion zone.
The scale of this development will see the removal of many mature trees which are home to many birds and local wildlife.
TRAFFIC/ACCESIBILITY
Ocean st is already a VERY busy and congested street, as it is used as a thoroughfare to Mona Vale to the north and Dee Why to the south. Personally, I experience significant difficulty, danger and delay each morning, when entering Ocean St from our driveway as there is a continuous stream of cars. The addition of 149 units (potentially another 300 odd cars as most households possess 2 cars) will greatly increase traffic congestion and pose a danger to school children (St Josephs School in Ocean St), mothers & fathers with prams & young children, pushbike riders and older walkers - all trying to cross the road.
Parking is already at critical levels on Ocean St. The addition of 149 units, with only 192 car spaces will further exacerbate this situation. The provision of just 7 visitor spaces is WOEFULLY inadequate.
I do not oppose the building of a seniors complex outright, but I DO OPPOSE THIS APPLICATION due to its proposed extreme overdevelopment of the site.
Further consultation and time are needed to consider this development and scale it back to an acceptable level.
We should not be agreeing to this level of development which will destroy the amenity of our beautiful suburb and merely line the pockets of developers.
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AVALON BEACH
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New South Wales
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I am in favour of this development. The design is very impressive and modern and sypathetic to the area near the beach. I believe we definitely need options for retirees to down size and free up their homes for younger generations. My husband and I are keen to stay in the area when we retire and would seek an independent living option such as Indigo. Given the unique location (close to beach, church, public transport and shops), use of the site should be maximised. I do not think 5 storys is too high for the site. Having reviewed the plans, it is set back and not imposing on the neighbouring properties.
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Narrabeen
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New South Wales
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I strongly object to SSD-76220734 – 156 Ocean Street Narrabeen.
I live in Narrabeen and use Ocean Street daily, this development is unsuitable to this area ( due to its size) which is already coping with heavy traffic and the lack of available street parking to the current residents and visitors.
This development is out of character for the area and will have a huge adverse impact on the local community .
I urge the Department to reduce the building height to no more than 2 -3 storey and lower the overall density to better fit our community.
Kind Regards
I live in Narrabeen and use Ocean Street daily, this development is unsuitable to this area ( due to its size) which is already coping with heavy traffic and the lack of available street parking to the current residents and visitors.
This development is out of character for the area and will have a huge adverse impact on the local community .
I urge the Department to reduce the building height to no more than 2 -3 storey and lower the overall density to better fit our community.
Kind Regards
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NARRABEEN
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New South Wales
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SSD 76220734 Indigo by Moran Seniors Living
I have significant concerns about this project, as a 30 year long resident of Lagoon Street Narrabeen. I can see the site from my own property as it is one block from my own unit block.
The Narrabeen peninsula for many years has been limited to development of less than three stories. Much of the peninsula is sand-based and with only one road (Ocean Street) in and out of the peninsula, this has enabled traffic to be kept at manageable levels. A key times of the day traffic can be tight especially around Waterloo Street which provides the only right hand turn off the peninsula onto Pittwater Road. With increased traffic this will only become worse for residents.
The proposed development Indigo is 6 stories, and would be completely out of scale in this community as it would completely disregards the building height character, the environment, infrastructure and community of Narrabeen. A significant number of old well established palm trees, a significant historical and cultural feature of the area, would need to be removed, resulting in a much hotter environment.
Environmentally there are also known concerns about the possible water table concerns with a underground 3 level car park. This occurred with a development further up in Lagoon Street Narrabeen some years ago with the construction of an underground car park that flooded before the construction had even been completed.
In addition, there is not enough car spaces for the number of units in the development. Total resident car spaces available is 178. You would have to assume the residents of the 46, 3 bedroom units will have 2 cars - that's 92 car spaces taken up. Then there is the 59, 2 bedroom with study units and one would have to assume that the majority of 90% will have 2 cars and the other 10% have 1 car - that's another 112 car spaces taken up and finally the 44, 2 bedroom units. Lets assume 50% of those residents do not have a car, the remainder 50% have 2 cars -that's 44 car spaces so the total of likely car spaces required for the development should be 248 and these figures assume that the residents will actually park their cars in their garages so where is the short fall of 70 cars going to park? Already in Ocean and Lagoon Streets, the two street bordering this development there is not sufficient parking currently.
The provision of car parking for staff and for visitors is also an issue - there are only 3 car spaces for the staff looking after the 10 bed care facility so where do these nursing staff/carers park at shift changeover times? There are also only 7 visitors car spaces made available – this will mean that a significant number of visitors will be parking on an already congested local street. Where will administration/support/maintenance staff park?
This development signifies a reduction from 55 aged care beds and 35 assisted living units to a 10 bed care facility placing additional pressure for spaces for this kind of service on the northern beaches. This is not a supported facility – this is high end seniors living for those that can afford it.
Locals are concerned that the developers based in the eastern suburbs of Sydney who are unfamiliar with the Narrabeen peninsula are exploiting planning loopholes to get easy development approvals by making it an over 60's development. The State Government has earmarked Brookvale, Dee Why, Mona Vale, Manly Vale and Forestville as high rise accommodation districts, but not the Narrabeen peninsula. This form of luxury development should be at one of the above mentioned locations. Additionally the developers have not held genuine community consultations and have avoided community questions.
The building currently is in good condition and could be purposely refurbished to include what this developer wants by renovation instead of demolishing and rebuilding.
I have significant concerns about this project, as a 30 year long resident of Lagoon Street Narrabeen. I can see the site from my own property as it is one block from my own unit block.
The Narrabeen peninsula for many years has been limited to development of less than three stories. Much of the peninsula is sand-based and with only one road (Ocean Street) in and out of the peninsula, this has enabled traffic to be kept at manageable levels. A key times of the day traffic can be tight especially around Waterloo Street which provides the only right hand turn off the peninsula onto Pittwater Road. With increased traffic this will only become worse for residents.
The proposed development Indigo is 6 stories, and would be completely out of scale in this community as it would completely disregards the building height character, the environment, infrastructure and community of Narrabeen. A significant number of old well established palm trees, a significant historical and cultural feature of the area, would need to be removed, resulting in a much hotter environment.
Environmentally there are also known concerns about the possible water table concerns with a underground 3 level car park. This occurred with a development further up in Lagoon Street Narrabeen some years ago with the construction of an underground car park that flooded before the construction had even been completed.
In addition, there is not enough car spaces for the number of units in the development. Total resident car spaces available is 178. You would have to assume the residents of the 46, 3 bedroom units will have 2 cars - that's 92 car spaces taken up. Then there is the 59, 2 bedroom with study units and one would have to assume that the majority of 90% will have 2 cars and the other 10% have 1 car - that's another 112 car spaces taken up and finally the 44, 2 bedroom units. Lets assume 50% of those residents do not have a car, the remainder 50% have 2 cars -that's 44 car spaces so the total of likely car spaces required for the development should be 248 and these figures assume that the residents will actually park their cars in their garages so where is the short fall of 70 cars going to park? Already in Ocean and Lagoon Streets, the two street bordering this development there is not sufficient parking currently.
The provision of car parking for staff and for visitors is also an issue - there are only 3 car spaces for the staff looking after the 10 bed care facility so where do these nursing staff/carers park at shift changeover times? There are also only 7 visitors car spaces made available – this will mean that a significant number of visitors will be parking on an already congested local street. Where will administration/support/maintenance staff park?
This development signifies a reduction from 55 aged care beds and 35 assisted living units to a 10 bed care facility placing additional pressure for spaces for this kind of service on the northern beaches. This is not a supported facility – this is high end seniors living for those that can afford it.
Locals are concerned that the developers based in the eastern suburbs of Sydney who are unfamiliar with the Narrabeen peninsula are exploiting planning loopholes to get easy development approvals by making it an over 60's development. The State Government has earmarked Brookvale, Dee Why, Mona Vale, Manly Vale and Forestville as high rise accommodation districts, but not the Narrabeen peninsula. This form of luxury development should be at one of the above mentioned locations. Additionally the developers have not held genuine community consultations and have avoided community questions.
The building currently is in good condition and could be purposely refurbished to include what this developer wants by renovation instead of demolishing and rebuilding.