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Pymble
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New South Wales
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Nadia Kraefft
10A Lawley Crescent
Pymble, NSW, 2073
Director Major Projects Assessment
Department of Planning and Infrastructure
GPO Box 39
SYDNEY, NSW, 2001
Regarding : 1, 1A & 5 Avon Road and 4 & 8 Beechworth Road, Pymble.
Application no. MP08_0207 and MP10_0219
I am a local permanent resident in Pymble and I object to the project on the following grounds:
* Height and bulk of the Project. I believe it is unfair that 273 dwelling and 4 residential buildings of 4 to 9 stories be next door to residential 1 or 2 storey properties. It is excessive. The project will also cause substantial overshadowing to nearby residents. I am also concerned about noise and privacy loss to those living nearby the development. I am not in the building/development profession, but does this building application consider the neighbours? 273 units is surely an absurd number.
* Traffic. With Pymble Ladies College and the now `Meriton' large group of units next door to PLC, traffic comes to a standstill. If this development were to come to fruition, the local streets would become blocked. At times Avon Rd becomes a one way lane of traffic with cars already reversing, taking turns to progress forward. Beechworth Rd also will become a traffic hazard as being a two way only road, is not designed for this large dwelling of 273 units, umpteen people and umpteen cars. Local traffic already has increased 10 fold since the new massive apartment block next door to PLC has come to fruition. I strongly believe that with the increased traffic should this massive development come to fruition, someone may be killed trying to cross the road.
* Bushfire Risks. The local streets are already congested. What would happen in case of a fire or worse still a bushfire with just the local two way streets to contend with.
* Environmental Impact. This currently vacant block is overgrown with wild obnoxious weeds and who knows if it is also a dumping ground. Residents who live in Pymble love the Blue Gum High Forest, Blackbutt trees amongst other native fauna and animals. I also have concerns with the state of the water course on the block that leads to the Lane Cove River due to current obvious neglect. I believe that the current owners have nil concern with the riparian vegetation as mentioned in the Concept Plan.
Kind Regards,
Nadia Kraefft
1st March 2013
10A Lawley Crescent
Pymble, NSW, 2073
Director Major Projects Assessment
Department of Planning and Infrastructure
GPO Box 39
SYDNEY, NSW, 2001
Regarding : 1, 1A & 5 Avon Road and 4 & 8 Beechworth Road, Pymble.
Application no. MP08_0207 and MP10_0219
I am a local permanent resident in Pymble and I object to the project on the following grounds:
* Height and bulk of the Project. I believe it is unfair that 273 dwelling and 4 residential buildings of 4 to 9 stories be next door to residential 1 or 2 storey properties. It is excessive. The project will also cause substantial overshadowing to nearby residents. I am also concerned about noise and privacy loss to those living nearby the development. I am not in the building/development profession, but does this building application consider the neighbours? 273 units is surely an absurd number.
* Traffic. With Pymble Ladies College and the now `Meriton' large group of units next door to PLC, traffic comes to a standstill. If this development were to come to fruition, the local streets would become blocked. At times Avon Rd becomes a one way lane of traffic with cars already reversing, taking turns to progress forward. Beechworth Rd also will become a traffic hazard as being a two way only road, is not designed for this large dwelling of 273 units, umpteen people and umpteen cars. Local traffic already has increased 10 fold since the new massive apartment block next door to PLC has come to fruition. I strongly believe that with the increased traffic should this massive development come to fruition, someone may be killed trying to cross the road.
* Bushfire Risks. The local streets are already congested. What would happen in case of a fire or worse still a bushfire with just the local two way streets to contend with.
* Environmental Impact. This currently vacant block is overgrown with wild obnoxious weeds and who knows if it is also a dumping ground. Residents who live in Pymble love the Blue Gum High Forest, Blackbutt trees amongst other native fauna and animals. I also have concerns with the state of the water course on the block that leads to the Lane Cove River due to current obvious neglect. I believe that the current owners have nil concern with the riparian vegetation as mentioned in the Concept Plan.
Kind Regards,
Nadia Kraefft
1st March 2013
Sally Luo
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Sally Luo
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New South Wales
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1. The traffic on Beechworth road is very busy especially during the school hours. If we build a high rise building, with hundrends residents, local traffic will become a big problem.
2. all our local single, double story houses will lose their privacy with this high rise building on the high side of the street.
2. all our local single, double story houses will lose their privacy with this high rise building on the high side of the street.
Olaf Reinhardt
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Olaf Reinhardt
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Pymble
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New South Wales
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Olaf Reinhardt
19 Ashmore Ave
PYMBLE, 2073
[email protected]
26 February 2013
To Department of Planning and Infrastructure
Re: Development Proposal
MP08−_−0207 and MP10_0219
Residential Flat Development at 1, 1A, 5 Avon Rd, 1 Arilla Rd and 4, 8 Beechworth Rd, Pymble
I wish to object to this proposal. I have read the proposal in detail as well as the Council's submission on it and consider myself reasonably well informed on what is involved. I would like to support the Council's stance on this matter and to add emphasis to the following matters:
Traffic implications: this is historically basically designed for a relatively quiet backwater residential area. The large volume of traffic generated by PLC is essentially out of character, but can be tolerated because it occurs for relatively short periods twice a day. Nonetheless, waiting times at the traffic lights on Beechworth Road and Livingstone Avenue can be frustratingly long. The proponent's traffic survey is seriously flawed because, while the morning peak for PLC takes place within the survey hours, the afternoon one is all over by the time the survey was taken. This can easily be confirmed by comparing the traffic movements -in many instances the number of vehicles leaving the area in the afternoon is half the number arriving in the morning. Does the school swallow large numbers of cars each day?
Furthermore, the traffic in the area is already intense -- it is a nonsense to claim that any further traffic will add only a few seconds to the delay. There was an occasion when a fire brigade was called to the end of Avon Road but the gridlock around Livingstone Avenue was such that it was unable to get through and a brigade from Hornsby had to be called (fire brigades are allowed to turn right from the Highway to Beechworth Road). When we leave the area via the Beechworth Road entrance to the Highway, we often have to wait for two or three changes of lights (each 2.5 minutes or more) on school days and often two on Saturday mornings.
The proposal also blithely suggests that the problem of access from the development to Avon Road can be resolved by a roundabout. Avon Road is far too narrow for this to work and furthermore: why should ordinary traffic be forced to wait for traffic from a private site? I am sure there are many people living on busy roads who would love to have their own roundabout to allow them expeditious access to the road.
Scope of the proposal: Nine storeys is entirely out of keeping with the rest of the area. The number of residents contemplated will virtually double the population of the area. The FSR does not comply, there are not enough parking spaces, the application does not do justice to the trees and other vegetation in the site.
Altogether, this proposal is far too big, not well enough thought through, does not comply with standard guidelines and so should be rejected.
Signed
O.G. Reinhardt
19 Ashmore Ave
PYMBLE, 2073
[email protected]
26 February 2013
To Department of Planning and Infrastructure
Re: Development Proposal
MP08−_−0207 and MP10_0219
Residential Flat Development at 1, 1A, 5 Avon Rd, 1 Arilla Rd and 4, 8 Beechworth Rd, Pymble
I wish to object to this proposal. I have read the proposal in detail as well as the Council's submission on it and consider myself reasonably well informed on what is involved. I would like to support the Council's stance on this matter and to add emphasis to the following matters:
Traffic implications: this is historically basically designed for a relatively quiet backwater residential area. The large volume of traffic generated by PLC is essentially out of character, but can be tolerated because it occurs for relatively short periods twice a day. Nonetheless, waiting times at the traffic lights on Beechworth Road and Livingstone Avenue can be frustratingly long. The proponent's traffic survey is seriously flawed because, while the morning peak for PLC takes place within the survey hours, the afternoon one is all over by the time the survey was taken. This can easily be confirmed by comparing the traffic movements -in many instances the number of vehicles leaving the area in the afternoon is half the number arriving in the morning. Does the school swallow large numbers of cars each day?
Furthermore, the traffic in the area is already intense -- it is a nonsense to claim that any further traffic will add only a few seconds to the delay. There was an occasion when a fire brigade was called to the end of Avon Road but the gridlock around Livingstone Avenue was such that it was unable to get through and a brigade from Hornsby had to be called (fire brigades are allowed to turn right from the Highway to Beechworth Road). When we leave the area via the Beechworth Road entrance to the Highway, we often have to wait for two or three changes of lights (each 2.5 minutes or more) on school days and often two on Saturday mornings.
The proposal also blithely suggests that the problem of access from the development to Avon Road can be resolved by a roundabout. Avon Road is far too narrow for this to work and furthermore: why should ordinary traffic be forced to wait for traffic from a private site? I am sure there are many people living on busy roads who would love to have their own roundabout to allow them expeditious access to the road.
Scope of the proposal: Nine storeys is entirely out of keeping with the rest of the area. The number of residents contemplated will virtually double the population of the area. The FSR does not comply, there are not enough parking spaces, the application does not do justice to the trees and other vegetation in the site.
Altogether, this proposal is far too big, not well enough thought through, does not comply with standard guidelines and so should be rejected.
Signed
O.G. Reinhardt
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Sydney
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New South Wales
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Traffic on both Avon and Beachworth roads in the mornings are often at a standstill due to traffic from PLC, this development would only further the traffic jams as there is no other way out from this part of Pymble
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Pymble
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New South Wales
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The size and scale of this development will cause significant problems of congestion on the nearby roads. Exit from this area is limited to the Pacific Highway from Beechworth Rd and could cause problems during emergency evacuations.
Malcom Jaundrell
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Malcom Jaundrell
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Pymble
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New South Wales
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We strongly object to the development proposal MP08_0207 / MP10_0219 due to the increase in vehicular traffic it will entail.
The present level of traffic exiting either Beechworth Road or Livingstone Avenue is horrendous during the peak periods due to PLC parents dropping off or picking up students. This development will only exacerbate the stress and dangers of these periods.
The present level of traffic exiting either Beechworth Road or Livingstone Avenue is horrendous during the peak periods due to PLC parents dropping off or picking up students. This development will only exacerbate the stress and dangers of these periods.
Suzanne Marriott
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Suzanne Marriott
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Pymble
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New South Wales
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Dear NSW Government,
RE - Application Number 10_0219
I too strongly object to this development.
The proposed high rise units at Avon/Beechworth Road, Pymble are completely unsuitable for the small, tight suburban road in the immediate area.
The traffic on Avon road due to the HUGE volume of moving cars from the PLC School is already very unmanageable. Parking on both sides of the road means that the road is one lane with a blind corner in the middle of it. I have had numerous occasions where there has been a near head on collision. The proposed development will add more traffic volume onto the narrow streets which is dangerous and unacceptable.
The parking situation on Avon road is very tight and the proposed development does not have enough on site parking spaces so more residents from the development will be forced to park of the narrow and congested road. This too is unacceptable.
On the Beechworth Road side of the development the proposed tall buildings will sit high on the high and be totally out of keeping with the low height of existing buildings and trees.
Heavy traffic volumes at the Beechworth Road/Pacific Hwy intersection during peak periods will be made worse by the additional cars the development will bring to the area. This again is unacceptable.
This development is totally unsuitable for the site proposed and must not proceed.
Thank you
Suzanne Marriott
RE - Application Number 10_0219
I too strongly object to this development.
The proposed high rise units at Avon/Beechworth Road, Pymble are completely unsuitable for the small, tight suburban road in the immediate area.
The traffic on Avon road due to the HUGE volume of moving cars from the PLC School is already very unmanageable. Parking on both sides of the road means that the road is one lane with a blind corner in the middle of it. I have had numerous occasions where there has been a near head on collision. The proposed development will add more traffic volume onto the narrow streets which is dangerous and unacceptable.
The parking situation on Avon road is very tight and the proposed development does not have enough on site parking spaces so more residents from the development will be forced to park of the narrow and congested road. This too is unacceptable.
On the Beechworth Road side of the development the proposed tall buildings will sit high on the high and be totally out of keeping with the low height of existing buildings and trees.
Heavy traffic volumes at the Beechworth Road/Pacific Hwy intersection during peak periods will be made worse by the additional cars the development will bring to the area. This again is unacceptable.
This development is totally unsuitable for the site proposed and must not proceed.
Thank you
Suzanne Marriott
Mark Marriott
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Mark Marriott
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Pymble
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New South Wales
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Dear NSW Government,
RE - Application Number 10_0219
I strongly object to this development.
The proposed high rise units at Avon/Beechworth Road, Pymble are completely unsuitable for the small, tight suburban road in the immediate area.
The traffic on Avon road due to the HUGE volume of moving cars from the PLC School is already very unmanageable. Parking on both sides of the road means that the road is one lane with a blind corner in the middle of it. I have had numerous occasions where there has been a near head on collision. The proposed development will add more traffic volume onto the narrow streets which is dangerous and unacceptable.
The parking situation on Avon road is very tight and the proposed development does not have enough on site parking spaces so more residents from the development will be forced to park of the narrow and congested road. This too is unacceptable.
On the Beechworth Road side of the development the proposed tall buildings will sit high on the high and be totally out of keeping with the low height of existing buildings and trees.
Heavy traffic volumes at the Beechworth Road/Pacific Hwy intersection during peak periods will be made worse by the additional cars the development will bring to the area. This again is unacceptable.
This development is totally unsuitable for the site proposed and must not proceed.
Thank you
Mark Marriott
RE - Application Number 10_0219
I strongly object to this development.
The proposed high rise units at Avon/Beechworth Road, Pymble are completely unsuitable for the small, tight suburban road in the immediate area.
The traffic on Avon road due to the HUGE volume of moving cars from the PLC School is already very unmanageable. Parking on both sides of the road means that the road is one lane with a blind corner in the middle of it. I have had numerous occasions where there has been a near head on collision. The proposed development will add more traffic volume onto the narrow streets which is dangerous and unacceptable.
The parking situation on Avon road is very tight and the proposed development does not have enough on site parking spaces so more residents from the development will be forced to park of the narrow and congested road. This too is unacceptable.
On the Beechworth Road side of the development the proposed tall buildings will sit high on the high and be totally out of keeping with the low height of existing buildings and trees.
Heavy traffic volumes at the Beechworth Road/Pacific Hwy intersection during peak periods will be made worse by the additional cars the development will bring to the area. This again is unacceptable.
This development is totally unsuitable for the site proposed and must not proceed.
Thank you
Mark Marriott
Chun Nam Lum
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Chun Nam Lum
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Pymble
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New South Wales
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I strongly object to the proposed new high rise units on the Avon / Beechworth Rd site for the following reasons:
1. Increase in Traffic
I have lived in the area for almost 20 years and have seen the conditions deteriorate to the current hazardous situation. Already the mornings and afternoons during term time, traffic at Avon Rd right up to Everton St and Linvingstone Ave is almost at gridlock, esp on rainy days. With cars parked on both sides of the road, Avon Rd becomes single lane and cars dodging each other pose a danger to pedestrians and drivers. There are already high rise apartments at Avon rd and Everton St with another site on Everton St coming up. The traffic sitaution will get even worse if this proposal is approved.
2. Character of area
There are already sufficient high rise sites in the area. Another site with high rise buildings will destroy the whole character of the area which has blue gum and heritage bulidings nearby on Avon Rd.
3. Ingress and Egress
Our area is a constrained site accessed only via Avon Rd and Beechworth Rd which are already unable to handle existing traffc comfortably. In the event of an emergency, eg bushfire from the adjoining forests, the additional population will cause further congestion.
Yours truly,
CN Lum
1. Increase in Traffic
I have lived in the area for almost 20 years and have seen the conditions deteriorate to the current hazardous situation. Already the mornings and afternoons during term time, traffic at Avon Rd right up to Everton St and Linvingstone Ave is almost at gridlock, esp on rainy days. With cars parked on both sides of the road, Avon Rd becomes single lane and cars dodging each other pose a danger to pedestrians and drivers. There are already high rise apartments at Avon rd and Everton St with another site on Everton St coming up. The traffic sitaution will get even worse if this proposal is approved.
2. Character of area
There are already sufficient high rise sites in the area. Another site with high rise buildings will destroy the whole character of the area which has blue gum and heritage bulidings nearby on Avon Rd.
3. Ingress and Egress
Our area is a constrained site accessed only via Avon Rd and Beechworth Rd which are already unable to handle existing traffc comfortably. In the event of an emergency, eg bushfire from the adjoining forests, the additional population will cause further congestion.
Yours truly,
CN Lum
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Pymble
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New South Wales
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My concerns are based around the density of the project which I feel is too high for the area.
Specifically:
1. Neighbourhood access and egress
We have only two road access points - via the top of Beechworth Avenue and via Livingstone Avenue. It is already difficult to drive out of the neighbourhood on week days because of the traffic from Pymble Ladies' College. Cars are always backed up at the lights. The lights have a low priority (because of the heavy traffic on Pacific Highway) and when they do change there is little time to clear the backlog. An additional 273 households will make this a permanent traffic jam.
Vehicular entry into the neighbourhood is even more difficult because entry to Beechworth is restricted to left hand turns only. This requires residents coming from the north on Pacific Highway to do a U-turn on Telegraph road so they can track back and make the left into Beechworth. The situation on Telegraph has already resulted in accidents. An additional 273 households is going to make it very dangerous.
2. Danger to pedestrians
Many of our residents (including myself) make the twice-daily walk to/from Pymble train station. Students make the "stroll to PLC". There are no sidewalks on Beechworth, Allowah or Arilla. Increasingly I notice residents park their cars on the road in front of their properties. Beechworth and Arilla are particularly bad. It is dangerous weaving in and out of parked cars as you make the walk on a rainy day when the grassy areas at the side of the roads are sodden and too slippery to walk on. The significant increase in traffic from this development is going to make the walk even more dangerous. I have no doubt a pedestrian will be badly hurt if the project proceeds at the requested size.
3. Congestion from street parking
We are concerned residents and visitors to a complex this size will inevitably result on overflow parking on the surrounding streets. Avon road is already nearly impassable on weekdays because of student parking for PLC. When the recent development across from the tunnel to Pymble station went up, we lost about a dozen parking spaces to residents of that building who permanently park in front of that building. This new development will make it difficult or impossible for existing residents to get commuter parking near the station.
4. Negative impact on property values
When we purchased our property it was a significant investment for us. The high value of the properties was explained by the characteristics of the neighbourhood - low rise, quiet, uncrowded and private. This development will completely change the nature of the area. A set of low-rise units (2-3 story) as along Pacific Highway would blend in. A complex with 9 story buildings will NOT. This is going to reduce my property value.
Please do not let this project proceed with the density proposed!
Specifically:
1. Neighbourhood access and egress
We have only two road access points - via the top of Beechworth Avenue and via Livingstone Avenue. It is already difficult to drive out of the neighbourhood on week days because of the traffic from Pymble Ladies' College. Cars are always backed up at the lights. The lights have a low priority (because of the heavy traffic on Pacific Highway) and when they do change there is little time to clear the backlog. An additional 273 households will make this a permanent traffic jam.
Vehicular entry into the neighbourhood is even more difficult because entry to Beechworth is restricted to left hand turns only. This requires residents coming from the north on Pacific Highway to do a U-turn on Telegraph road so they can track back and make the left into Beechworth. The situation on Telegraph has already resulted in accidents. An additional 273 households is going to make it very dangerous.
2. Danger to pedestrians
Many of our residents (including myself) make the twice-daily walk to/from Pymble train station. Students make the "stroll to PLC". There are no sidewalks on Beechworth, Allowah or Arilla. Increasingly I notice residents park their cars on the road in front of their properties. Beechworth and Arilla are particularly bad. It is dangerous weaving in and out of parked cars as you make the walk on a rainy day when the grassy areas at the side of the roads are sodden and too slippery to walk on. The significant increase in traffic from this development is going to make the walk even more dangerous. I have no doubt a pedestrian will be badly hurt if the project proceeds at the requested size.
3. Congestion from street parking
We are concerned residents and visitors to a complex this size will inevitably result on overflow parking on the surrounding streets. Avon road is already nearly impassable on weekdays because of student parking for PLC. When the recent development across from the tunnel to Pymble station went up, we lost about a dozen parking spaces to residents of that building who permanently park in front of that building. This new development will make it difficult or impossible for existing residents to get commuter parking near the station.
4. Negative impact on property values
When we purchased our property it was a significant investment for us. The high value of the properties was explained by the characteristics of the neighbourhood - low rise, quiet, uncrowded and private. This development will completely change the nature of the area. A set of low-rise units (2-3 story) as along Pacific Highway would blend in. A complex with 9 story buildings will NOT. This is going to reduce my property value.
Please do not let this project proceed with the density proposed!