State Significant Development
Assessment
Scalabrini Harbourside Seniors Housing Drummoyne
City of Canada Bay
Current Status: Assessment
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Alterations and additions to existing seniors housing facility to provide updated facilities and service options, comprising 2 RCF rooms in a centralised care hub, 54 ILUs, 31 additional car parking spaces and associated works.
Attachments & Resources
Notice of Exhibition (1)
SEARs (2)
EIS (46)
Exhibition (1)
Response to Submissions (27)
Agency Advice (8)
Submissions
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Name Withheld
Object
Name Withheld
Object
Drummoyne
,
New South Wales
Message
Dear Planning Panel
I am writing to object to the design of the development proposal for Scalabrini Senior Housing on the basis of exceeding not only the currnet Controls of 12.5m height restriction and further to this the proposal to exceed the existing roof heigth with an RL of 25.85.
This is yet another example of developments particularly along the waterfront, where the developer has their architect attempt to provide excuses & reasons as to why a proposed development should be allowed to exceed height Controls purely out of self-interest for the developer in order to improve the construction feasibility and achieve top-dollar for their units, in this instance by having two lift cores that open onto an outdoor communal area to achieve views of the harbour bridge.
1) Within the architects report, they make the claim of improvement in design aesthestics by breaking up the form of the roof-line with the addition of two block-shaped lift cores. That may be regarded as good aethestics, however, this should be acheived within the height Controls and not a reason to exceed.
2) The Architectural Design Guidelines encourage design to consider sunlight to areas of a built -form. With regards to the roof-top communal area, this would encourage the space to face North on the other side of the roof-line. Instead, the proposed design has the communal space facing South limiting sunlight. I am adamant the reason why it has been placed South-facing is not for the benefit of the residents but for the developer' self-interest in achieving harbour bridge views for thier Sales prices, whilst neighbouring properties are disadvantaged.
I object to these height limits being exceeded for the reasons above as it provides no benefit for anyone else other than the developer.
Kind Regards
I am writing to object to the design of the development proposal for Scalabrini Senior Housing on the basis of exceeding not only the currnet Controls of 12.5m height restriction and further to this the proposal to exceed the existing roof heigth with an RL of 25.85.
This is yet another example of developments particularly along the waterfront, where the developer has their architect attempt to provide excuses & reasons as to why a proposed development should be allowed to exceed height Controls purely out of self-interest for the developer in order to improve the construction feasibility and achieve top-dollar for their units, in this instance by having two lift cores that open onto an outdoor communal area to achieve views of the harbour bridge.
1) Within the architects report, they make the claim of improvement in design aesthestics by breaking up the form of the roof-line with the addition of two block-shaped lift cores. That may be regarded as good aethestics, however, this should be acheived within the height Controls and not a reason to exceed.
2) The Architectural Design Guidelines encourage design to consider sunlight to areas of a built -form. With regards to the roof-top communal area, this would encourage the space to face North on the other side of the roof-line. Instead, the proposed design has the communal space facing South limiting sunlight. I am adamant the reason why it has been placed South-facing is not for the benefit of the residents but for the developer' self-interest in achieving harbour bridge views for thier Sales prices, whilst neighbouring properties are disadvantaged.
I object to these height limits being exceeded for the reasons above as it provides no benefit for anyone else other than the developer.
Kind Regards
m projects
Comment
m projects
Comment
MANLY
,
New South Wales
Message
Please refer to attached submission made on behalf of m projects and in relation to the neighbouring properties at 2 and 1-6/4 Lyons Road, Drummoyne. We request that any details or references to m projects and 2 & 1-6/4 Lyons Road be redacted so they are not made publicly available.
Attachments
City of Canada Bay
Object
City of Canada Bay
Object
DRUMMOYNE
,
New South Wales
Message
Please refer to the attached submission from Canada Bay Council.
Attachments
Name Withheld
Comment
Name Withheld
Comment
Drummoyne
,
New South Wales
Message
Hi, I am writing in relation to the Notice of Exhibition - Scalabrini Harbourside Seniors Housing Drummoyne.
I am a very close resident residing at 72 St Georges Cres, Drummoyne & having taken a look through the proposal I have some comments/questions that I feel will significantly impact my quality of living and property that I own.
Firstly, I think it a positive step to redevelop this building, it is an eye sore that is unused and I think will increase the experience/property prices in the area.
However, I am not sure that the estimated provided are realistic for a building, location and company of that size.
- The documents refer to a total of 59 car parking spaces to be provided across the two building (Como & Placenza). This is a 3 visitors and 2 staff carparks. A number of anticipated staff says a number of shift staff (max 3), this does not appear to be consider staff to run the cafe, reception, health, cleaning, maintenance and other general roles that are a part of organisations like this. Also 3 visitor carparks on the account of 59 (minimum) residents does not reflect the ability to handle more than 3 visitors (which seems like a very likely scenario - particularly on weekends). There is not a substantial amount of street parking as is it & this will significantly affect existing residents. I am struggling to see how that is adequate parking for staff and visitors.
How many additional staff are required to run an organisation like that?
What roles will these staff play?
Where are you expecting these additional staff to park? How are you expecting them to get to work?
Where will residents who park on the street now park? How will this impact the existing council rules for street parking?
Are you anticipating only 3 visitors at any time to visit a resident? This seems rather low.
- In light of limited street parking as is, where are the various construction vehicles planning on stopping? The document refers to 'construction work zone proposed at the northern end of Lyons Road & St Georges Cres'.
Where exactly on the streets will this be setup?
We have a driveway going in and out of our property just next door, which I would expect would not at all be affected by the set down areas/vehicle movements, we need free access to get in and out of our property when we need.
- One document refers to construction noise assessment (Mon-Fri 7am to 6pm / Sat 8am to 1pm) however another suggests standard hours of construction (Mon-Fri 7am - 3pm / Sat 8am to 5pm). These do not align and if the standard hours are to be used I would expect that there would be substantial construction noise outside of the assessment hours (even delivery trucks coming and going).
What are the actual hours of construction planned?
How long are you expecting peak predicted noise from construction for?
Is this a staged approach that will dictate the type of noise expected?
Will neighboring residents be communicated to?
I have a young family that will be affected by this ongoing noise.
- Staging of works refers to approximately 12 months of activity. Reading that as a neighboring resident my expectations are being set for 12 months.
What is the plan if this construction work is delayed?
What will be the impact to residents if this work is delayed beyond the 12 month timeframe?
Will there be compensation for additional time taken to complete? (i.e. having to listen to construction noises for longer than anticipated)
How will neighboring residents be communicated to about these changes in activities/timelines?
- What are the hours expected for visitors?
Do you anticipate visitors coming into the facility outside of these hours?
Additional street noise from vehicles all hours of the night is not something neighboring residents would be thrilled about listening to.
- What time will staff be entering and leaving the facility?
How does this differ for staff roles?
- What will be the impact to the existing sidewalks be for community members during construction?
What will the impact to the existing sidewalks be for community members after completion?
These are regularly used for commuters going to and from local public transport (ferry, buses) as well as general walking activities.
- Understanding that there are many steps before development occurs, what are the anticipated timeframes for this work to commence?
- What is expected plan for the clean up of dirt and materials?
How often will this be cleaned?
Do you expect there to be impact to neighboring properties and if yes what do you expect?
How will dust and construction waste be managed to minimise impact on neighboring properties, including outdoor furniture, vehicles, and air quality?
- A number of the properties within our complex look out towards the housing building. Will the housing building have blinds and shades?
- What measures will be in place to ensure neighboring residents privacy is not comprised by the new construction? Assumption is that the height of the existing building will remain as is?
- How many residents will there be to a particular unit?
- What will be the traffic flow on St Georges Cres, Lyons Road after construction? Lyons Road is a busy road and the lights at the corner of that road and Victoria road on weekends and daily peak hours are short leading to backup for local residents.
- How will waste management once operational be handled?
- Will nearby properties be inspected for any pre-existing structural issues?
Will a mechanism for damage claims be in place if caused by construction vibrations or other related items?
- Who will be the designated point of contact for resident inquiries or complaints during construction?
What mechanisms will be in place for residents to escalate concerns if they are not addressed?
- Are additional public meetings or feedback sessions planned for residents before construction begins?
Whilst this is an exciting development, as a local resident and property owner who will directly impacted it is my upmost priority to understand and also provide input/collaboration to ensure quality of life, property value and safety are upheld for myself personally and the community.
Thank you reading my comments, I look forward to hearing responses and have dialogue on each of the above items.
I am a very close resident residing at 72 St Georges Cres, Drummoyne & having taken a look through the proposal I have some comments/questions that I feel will significantly impact my quality of living and property that I own.
Firstly, I think it a positive step to redevelop this building, it is an eye sore that is unused and I think will increase the experience/property prices in the area.
However, I am not sure that the estimated provided are realistic for a building, location and company of that size.
- The documents refer to a total of 59 car parking spaces to be provided across the two building (Como & Placenza). This is a 3 visitors and 2 staff carparks. A number of anticipated staff says a number of shift staff (max 3), this does not appear to be consider staff to run the cafe, reception, health, cleaning, maintenance and other general roles that are a part of organisations like this. Also 3 visitor carparks on the account of 59 (minimum) residents does not reflect the ability to handle more than 3 visitors (which seems like a very likely scenario - particularly on weekends). There is not a substantial amount of street parking as is it & this will significantly affect existing residents. I am struggling to see how that is adequate parking for staff and visitors.
How many additional staff are required to run an organisation like that?
What roles will these staff play?
Where are you expecting these additional staff to park? How are you expecting them to get to work?
Where will residents who park on the street now park? How will this impact the existing council rules for street parking?
Are you anticipating only 3 visitors at any time to visit a resident? This seems rather low.
- In light of limited street parking as is, where are the various construction vehicles planning on stopping? The document refers to 'construction work zone proposed at the northern end of Lyons Road & St Georges Cres'.
Where exactly on the streets will this be setup?
We have a driveway going in and out of our property just next door, which I would expect would not at all be affected by the set down areas/vehicle movements, we need free access to get in and out of our property when we need.
- One document refers to construction noise assessment (Mon-Fri 7am to 6pm / Sat 8am to 1pm) however another suggests standard hours of construction (Mon-Fri 7am - 3pm / Sat 8am to 5pm). These do not align and if the standard hours are to be used I would expect that there would be substantial construction noise outside of the assessment hours (even delivery trucks coming and going).
What are the actual hours of construction planned?
How long are you expecting peak predicted noise from construction for?
Is this a staged approach that will dictate the type of noise expected?
Will neighboring residents be communicated to?
I have a young family that will be affected by this ongoing noise.
- Staging of works refers to approximately 12 months of activity. Reading that as a neighboring resident my expectations are being set for 12 months.
What is the plan if this construction work is delayed?
What will be the impact to residents if this work is delayed beyond the 12 month timeframe?
Will there be compensation for additional time taken to complete? (i.e. having to listen to construction noises for longer than anticipated)
How will neighboring residents be communicated to about these changes in activities/timelines?
- What are the hours expected for visitors?
Do you anticipate visitors coming into the facility outside of these hours?
Additional street noise from vehicles all hours of the night is not something neighboring residents would be thrilled about listening to.
- What time will staff be entering and leaving the facility?
How does this differ for staff roles?
- What will be the impact to the existing sidewalks be for community members during construction?
What will the impact to the existing sidewalks be for community members after completion?
These are regularly used for commuters going to and from local public transport (ferry, buses) as well as general walking activities.
- Understanding that there are many steps before development occurs, what are the anticipated timeframes for this work to commence?
- What is expected plan for the clean up of dirt and materials?
How often will this be cleaned?
Do you expect there to be impact to neighboring properties and if yes what do you expect?
How will dust and construction waste be managed to minimise impact on neighboring properties, including outdoor furniture, vehicles, and air quality?
- A number of the properties within our complex look out towards the housing building. Will the housing building have blinds and shades?
- What measures will be in place to ensure neighboring residents privacy is not comprised by the new construction? Assumption is that the height of the existing building will remain as is?
- How many residents will there be to a particular unit?
- What will be the traffic flow on St Georges Cres, Lyons Road after construction? Lyons Road is a busy road and the lights at the corner of that road and Victoria road on weekends and daily peak hours are short leading to backup for local residents.
- How will waste management once operational be handled?
- Will nearby properties be inspected for any pre-existing structural issues?
Will a mechanism for damage claims be in place if caused by construction vibrations or other related items?
- Who will be the designated point of contact for resident inquiries or complaints during construction?
What mechanisms will be in place for residents to escalate concerns if they are not addressed?
- Are additional public meetings or feedback sessions planned for residents before construction begins?
Whilst this is an exciting development, as a local resident and property owner who will directly impacted it is my upmost priority to understand and also provide input/collaboration to ensure quality of life, property value and safety are upheld for myself personally and the community.
Thank you reading my comments, I look forward to hearing responses and have dialogue on each of the above items.
Attachments
Phillip Balding
Support
Phillip Balding
Support
WOONONA
,
New South Wales
Message
Strongly support this proposal - we need more of any housing especially for seniors. With Drumoyne being a highly desirable area, it has higher willingness to pay, easily covering costs. A lot more higher density developments like this should be fostered, and approved being in a feasible location. The planning restrictions in areas like this are the big problem in getting supply up across the state. More people should be permitted to live here if they wish, the building looks fantastic, and it will free up some older homes for those less wealthy, and unclog the hospital beds caused by a lack of seniors housing.
Matt McInnes
Object
Matt McInnes
Object
DRUMMOYNE
,
New South Wales
Message
Dear Department of Planning, Housing and Infrastructure and Ms. Courtney Fung,
I am writing to formally object to the development application SSD-64388218. As a resident of Drummoyne I have significant concerns regarding the proposed development’s impact on our local environment, economy, and community without significant adjustments. While I personally support more independent living options for seniors, the proposed building’s height and layout significantly exceed regulations. The application has not demonstrated it has explored relevant options to support a better outcome for the site. It is questionable whether it will lead to more affordable housing for independent senior living. A development that doesn't incorporate stepping out to respond to the typography comes with environmental and community risks, among other issues. The assessment should ensure the application is not supported and denied with clear feedback given to conform to existing legislation on such a significant state site. Attached is a full response including images, references, case studies and other relevant information for your review.
Thank you for considering my objections.
Sincerely,
Matt McInnes
I am writing to formally object to the development application SSD-64388218. As a resident of Drummoyne I have significant concerns regarding the proposed development’s impact on our local environment, economy, and community without significant adjustments. While I personally support more independent living options for seniors, the proposed building’s height and layout significantly exceed regulations. The application has not demonstrated it has explored relevant options to support a better outcome for the site. It is questionable whether it will lead to more affordable housing for independent senior living. A development that doesn't incorporate stepping out to respond to the typography comes with environmental and community risks, among other issues. The assessment should ensure the application is not supported and denied with clear feedback given to conform to existing legislation on such a significant state site. Attached is a full response including images, references, case studies and other relevant information for your review.
Thank you for considering my objections.
Sincerely,
Matt McInnes
Attachments
Blake Wiggins
Comment
Blake Wiggins
Comment
DRUMMOYNE
,
New South Wales
Message
While we understand that there may be noise implications for those directly next to or across from the project site, we live in a neighboring block directly across from the proposed building site. As we generally work from home during the week, we feel there could be serious noise implications during the business day which can affect meetings etc. Can you please advise if the project will be worked on from Monday to Friday & also whether Saturday work is being considered. Should there be noise implications we may need to amend our submission from "providing comments" to "object".
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Project Details
Application Number
SSD-64388218
Assessment Type
State Significant Development
Development Type
Seniors Housing
Local Government Areas
City of Canada Bay