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St Leonards
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My submission objection is attached. Thank you.
Helen Pearson
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Helen Pearson
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ST LEONARDS
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New South Wales
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STATE SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION 10260 (SSD-10260) - International Chinese School at 211 Pacific Highway, St. Leonards.
1. I object to the proposal.
2. This is an unsuitable site for a school. This site is still designated as a cemetery and is of Heritage importance. The Avenue will be destroyed and the lovely heritage brick wall and gate (although now dangerously leaning) will be destroyed in the building of a new 2m+high metal fence. If this brick wall is taken down the bricks should be used in the driveway instead of modern pavers, or sold to the Brick Pit.- the same applies to the heavy iron gate (in the north facing brick wall) which should be kept and used in a public place - not souvenired by a contractor or passing pedestrian.
3. This is a PRIVATE school and is NOT A NEW SCHOOL, but one that is transferring from Chatswood. The community has long argued the need for 1 or 2 new PUBLIC schools in the area to cater for the increased residential population. The Dept. of Planning has told us that a NEW school requires 2HA. As St. Leonards and surrounds have become so crowded the community groups have been requesting more open space be provided with this huge push for development. In the Lane Cove, Willoughby and North Sydney Council area the developers seem to use Gore Hill Oval in their calculations as open space for all of their developments. The Community wants meaningful green open space and thought that Willoughby Council had achieved this with Gore Hill Oval . It is not clear how much this school development would disadvantage the local community.
4. The SITE IS TOO SMALL to house 210 children + staff. Will the school have to pay a fair and reasonable rent to the Landlord? who is paying for the building - the government, Council or the school?
5. Although the Headmaster says that there are other schools situated on the Pacific Highway I do not believe that any other school is as close as this proposed school to the Pacific Highway and the NOISE EXPERIENCED will be great as the many buses, construction trucks, delivery trucks thunder past.
6. The application does not really say how much they will use the public oval and play area but state that they will be off the oval by 12pm. I have twice been over to the oval between 10am and 11.30am and at these times the carpark has been close to full and on the first visit there were about 20 young women with children and on the 2nd time there were about 12 adults plus children in the playground and the netball court area. There were several people on the basketball court and moving around the oval. I should imagine that the mothers would by 12pm leave the area to take their young children home for lunch and a sleep. Will these young parents be unable to use the park facilities before 12pm? They need to park as they told me that they come quite a distance to meet at the park. This is the time that fits in with the children's sleeping schedule.
I have observed from my apartment that a lot of people come from the hospital and use the oval, hard surface and playground and it is used as a short cut to Westbourne Avenue from the station. Will all of these people be unable to use the area?
7. If there is intention for the school children to use the oval/playground from 11am to 12pm would this necessitate the use of the public toilets by the children? Who pays for this usage - we the ratepayers? Who supervises the children? Will their be need for another high fence around the area used by the school? If a child is hurt on the play equipment or the hard surface area who is responsible - Council or school?
8. The application states that the children will spend recess on the small area between the building and the Avenue. This area is dominated by what I think is a magnificent Morton Bay Fig which is looking decidely "sick" as the moment. The area of the tree has been fenced but something is causing this tree to be stressed. I don't think that the landscape plan for this play area has noted this tree and wonder whether it has been marked for destruction. There does not appear to be any seating in the area which is possibly good as the children should be playing - but I doubt whether there is sufficient space in this area for 210 children + supervisors.
9. Public transport in the area will be plentiful for their needs, but as previously discussed I should imagine that most students will come from out of the area and will need to be driven to school.
10.I do NOT believe that the parents will have SAFE, EFFICIENT ACCESS to the Council carpark.
There is a proposed shared bike path/pedestrian path to be built on the northern Pacific Highway pavement just outside the school.
The traffic starts to build up from 6.30am with the transit lane crowded with buses and cars. As the bus stop before the Council carpark is at Westbourne Street it gives the buses a chance to move quickly down the Highway and if they proceed through the Greenwich Road lights without stopping they can gather quite a bit of speed. Cars slowing to enter the carpark will need to indicate their turn very early as the buses will bear down on them quickly and drivers will also need to be mindful of speeding bike riders.
Exiting the carpark will be more dangerous as the cars will need to move across the pavement, bike path and be mindful of buses and cars in the transit lane. The exit is also close to a blind corner.
11. Whether the cars leaving the school return home or continue on to work via Reserve Road, Berry Street or Herbert Street it will add extra pressure to already busy streets, which will only become busier with the new tower developments being built and already approved in St. Leonards. The new Dept. of Health building in Reserve Road will bring many more cars to that street and if the Willoughby Council proceeds with a new sporting venue on the corner of Reserve Road and the Pacific Highway it will, at times, make it a very busy road.
Berry Street is busy Monday to Friday with people bringing elderly patients for diagnostic imaging and medical appointments at the 2 hospitals or the Medical Centre. This area has limited access and egress and there is a proposal for increased height and density. The roundabout necessary to make the turning is very small.
Herbert Street has ongoing problems in the morning with traffic as the pedestrian crossing to the hospital slows the traffic, to the point of stopping the flow.
12. I do not believe that the applicant has stated what use will be made of the area out of hours or the weekend and where the parking for any function will be.
13. It doesn't state why this school was not teamed with the Lindfield School - one would think that it would have been a better option.
14. Is there a canteen or even a kitchen in the design?
15. The school will require permanent lighting and airconditioning on the ground floor of the building. The windows will need to be closed against the noise and pollution of the Pacific Highway and therefore there will be no cross ventilation. The ground floor is, at present, very dark and with the addition of partitions will become darker - therefore requiring permanent lighting.
There is no separate hall or library in the building - I suppose that walls will concertina, but will this happen. I would have thought this type of private school would offer music as a subject, but there does not appear to be a music room.
There is no future flexibility as this site will be more than 100% used.
16. There does not appear to be any plan for deliveries. Where would these deliveries be made to. Would the trucks be traversing the carpark? What time would deliveries be made.
17. If a public address system and school bells are permitted to be relayed to outside it could be very annoying to the residents of the surrounding high rise buildings. These are sounds that carry through the area.
18. The proposal was originally put in for an office, with which the community was happy, however it is a big jump from an office to a school and the application is opaque.
For all the above reasons I object to State Significant Development Application 10260 (SSD-10260) - International Chinese School at 211 Pacific Highway, St. Leonards.
I have not made any reportable political donations in the previous two years.
Helen Pearson
3403/1 Sergeants Lane,
St. Leonards . 2065.
Monday 28th October, 2019 . (Extension of time given by Dimitri Gotsis,Senior Planner, Social and Other Infrastructure Assessments - Priority Projects. to 29th October, 2019)
1. I object to the proposal.
2. This is an unsuitable site for a school. This site is still designated as a cemetery and is of Heritage importance. The Avenue will be destroyed and the lovely heritage brick wall and gate (although now dangerously leaning) will be destroyed in the building of a new 2m+high metal fence. If this brick wall is taken down the bricks should be used in the driveway instead of modern pavers, or sold to the Brick Pit.- the same applies to the heavy iron gate (in the north facing brick wall) which should be kept and used in a public place - not souvenired by a contractor or passing pedestrian.
3. This is a PRIVATE school and is NOT A NEW SCHOOL, but one that is transferring from Chatswood. The community has long argued the need for 1 or 2 new PUBLIC schools in the area to cater for the increased residential population. The Dept. of Planning has told us that a NEW school requires 2HA. As St. Leonards and surrounds have become so crowded the community groups have been requesting more open space be provided with this huge push for development. In the Lane Cove, Willoughby and North Sydney Council area the developers seem to use Gore Hill Oval in their calculations as open space for all of their developments. The Community wants meaningful green open space and thought that Willoughby Council had achieved this with Gore Hill Oval . It is not clear how much this school development would disadvantage the local community.
4. The SITE IS TOO SMALL to house 210 children + staff. Will the school have to pay a fair and reasonable rent to the Landlord? who is paying for the building - the government, Council or the school?
5. Although the Headmaster says that there are other schools situated on the Pacific Highway I do not believe that any other school is as close as this proposed school to the Pacific Highway and the NOISE EXPERIENCED will be great as the many buses, construction trucks, delivery trucks thunder past.
6. The application does not really say how much they will use the public oval and play area but state that they will be off the oval by 12pm. I have twice been over to the oval between 10am and 11.30am and at these times the carpark has been close to full and on the first visit there were about 20 young women with children and on the 2nd time there were about 12 adults plus children in the playground and the netball court area. There were several people on the basketball court and moving around the oval. I should imagine that the mothers would by 12pm leave the area to take their young children home for lunch and a sleep. Will these young parents be unable to use the park facilities before 12pm? They need to park as they told me that they come quite a distance to meet at the park. This is the time that fits in with the children's sleeping schedule.
I have observed from my apartment that a lot of people come from the hospital and use the oval, hard surface and playground and it is used as a short cut to Westbourne Avenue from the station. Will all of these people be unable to use the area?
7. If there is intention for the school children to use the oval/playground from 11am to 12pm would this necessitate the use of the public toilets by the children? Who pays for this usage - we the ratepayers? Who supervises the children? Will their be need for another high fence around the area used by the school? If a child is hurt on the play equipment or the hard surface area who is responsible - Council or school?
8. The application states that the children will spend recess on the small area between the building and the Avenue. This area is dominated by what I think is a magnificent Morton Bay Fig which is looking decidely "sick" as the moment. The area of the tree has been fenced but something is causing this tree to be stressed. I don't think that the landscape plan for this play area has noted this tree and wonder whether it has been marked for destruction. There does not appear to be any seating in the area which is possibly good as the children should be playing - but I doubt whether there is sufficient space in this area for 210 children + supervisors.
9. Public transport in the area will be plentiful for their needs, but as previously discussed I should imagine that most students will come from out of the area and will need to be driven to school.
10.I do NOT believe that the parents will have SAFE, EFFICIENT ACCESS to the Council carpark.
There is a proposed shared bike path/pedestrian path to be built on the northern Pacific Highway pavement just outside the school.
The traffic starts to build up from 6.30am with the transit lane crowded with buses and cars. As the bus stop before the Council carpark is at Westbourne Street it gives the buses a chance to move quickly down the Highway and if they proceed through the Greenwich Road lights without stopping they can gather quite a bit of speed. Cars slowing to enter the carpark will need to indicate their turn very early as the buses will bear down on them quickly and drivers will also need to be mindful of speeding bike riders.
Exiting the carpark will be more dangerous as the cars will need to move across the pavement, bike path and be mindful of buses and cars in the transit lane. The exit is also close to a blind corner.
11. Whether the cars leaving the school return home or continue on to work via Reserve Road, Berry Street or Herbert Street it will add extra pressure to already busy streets, which will only become busier with the new tower developments being built and already approved in St. Leonards. The new Dept. of Health building in Reserve Road will bring many more cars to that street and if the Willoughby Council proceeds with a new sporting venue on the corner of Reserve Road and the Pacific Highway it will, at times, make it a very busy road.
Berry Street is busy Monday to Friday with people bringing elderly patients for diagnostic imaging and medical appointments at the 2 hospitals or the Medical Centre. This area has limited access and egress and there is a proposal for increased height and density. The roundabout necessary to make the turning is very small.
Herbert Street has ongoing problems in the morning with traffic as the pedestrian crossing to the hospital slows the traffic, to the point of stopping the flow.
12. I do not believe that the applicant has stated what use will be made of the area out of hours or the weekend and where the parking for any function will be.
13. It doesn't state why this school was not teamed with the Lindfield School - one would think that it would have been a better option.
14. Is there a canteen or even a kitchen in the design?
15. The school will require permanent lighting and airconditioning on the ground floor of the building. The windows will need to be closed against the noise and pollution of the Pacific Highway and therefore there will be no cross ventilation. The ground floor is, at present, very dark and with the addition of partitions will become darker - therefore requiring permanent lighting.
There is no separate hall or library in the building - I suppose that walls will concertina, but will this happen. I would have thought this type of private school would offer music as a subject, but there does not appear to be a music room.
There is no future flexibility as this site will be more than 100% used.
16. There does not appear to be any plan for deliveries. Where would these deliveries be made to. Would the trucks be traversing the carpark? What time would deliveries be made.
17. If a public address system and school bells are permitted to be relayed to outside it could be very annoying to the residents of the surrounding high rise buildings. These are sounds that carry through the area.
18. The proposal was originally put in for an office, with which the community was happy, however it is a big jump from an office to a school and the application is opaque.
For all the above reasons I object to State Significant Development Application 10260 (SSD-10260) - International Chinese School at 211 Pacific Highway, St. Leonards.
I have not made any reportable political donations in the previous two years.
Helen Pearson
3403/1 Sergeants Lane,
St. Leonards . 2065.
Monday 28th October, 2019 . (Extension of time given by Dimitri Gotsis,Senior Planner, Social and Other Infrastructure Assessments - Priority Projects. to 29th October, 2019)
Helen Pearson
Object
Helen Pearson
Object
ST LEONARDS
,
New South Wales
Message
STATE SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION 10260 (SSD-10260) - International Chinese School at 211 Pacific Highway, St. Leonards.
1. I object to the proposal.
2. This is an unsuitable site for a school. This site is still designated as a cemetery and is of Heritage importance. The Avenue will be destroyed and the lovely heritage brick wall and gate (although now dangerously leaning) will be destroyed in the building of a new 2m+high metal fence. If this brick wall is taken down the bricks should be used in the driveway instead of modern pavers, or sold to the Brick Pit.- the same applies to the heavy iron gate (in the north facing brick wall) which should be kept and used in a public place - not souvenired by a contractor or passing pedestrian.
3. This is a PRIVATE school and is NOT A NEW SCHOOL, but one that is transferring from Chatswood. The community has long argued the need for 1 or 2 new PUBLIC schools in the area to cater for the increased residential population. The Dept. of Planning has told us that a NEW school requires 2HA. As St. Leonards and surrounds have become so crowded the community groups have been requesting more open space be provided with this huge push for development. In the Lane Cove, Willoughby and North Sydney Council area the developers seem to use Gore Hill Oval in their calculations as open space for all of their developments. The Community wants meaningful green open space and thought that Willoughby Council had achieved this with Gore Hill Oval . It is not clear how much this school development would disadvantage the local community.
4. The SITE IS TOO SMALL to house 210 children + staff. Will the school have to pay a fair and reasonable rent to the Landlord? who is paying for the building - the government, Council or the school?
5. Although the Headmaster says that there are other schools situated on the Pacific Highway I do not believe that any other school is as close as this proposed school to the Pacific Highway and the NOISE EXPERIENCED will be great as the many buses, construction trucks, delivery trucks thunder past.
6. The application does not really say how much they will use the public oval and play area but state that they will be off the oval by 12pm. I have twice been over to the oval between 10am and 11.30am and at these times the carpark has been close to full and on the first visit there were about 20 young women with children and on the 2nd time there were about 12 adults plus children in the playground and the netball court area. There were several people on the basketball court and moving around the oval. I should imagine that the mothers would by 12pm leave the area to take their young children home for lunch and a sleep. Will these young parents be unable to use the park facilities before 12pm? They need to park as they told me that they come quite a distance to meet at the park. This is the time that fits in with the children's sleeping schedule.
I have observed from my apartment that a lot of people come from the hospital and use the oval, hard surface and playground and it is used as a short cut to Westbourne Avenue from the station. Will all of these people be unable to use the area?
7. If there is intention for the school children to use the oval/playground from 11am to 12pm would this necessitate the use of the public toilets by the children? Who pays for this usage - we the ratepayers? Who supervises the children? Will their be need for another high fence around the area used by the school? If a child is hurt on the play equipment or the hard surface area who is responsible - Council or school?
8. The application states that the children will spend recess on the small area between the building and the Avenue. This area is dominated by what I think is a magnificent Morton Bay Fig which is looking decidely "sick" as the moment. The area of the tree has been fenced but something is causing this tree to be stressed. I don't think that the landscape plan for this play area has noted this tree and wonder whether it has been marked for destruction. There does not appear to be any seating in the area which is possibly good as the children should be playing - but I doubt whether there is sufficient space in this area for 210 children + supervisors.
9. Public transport in the area will be plentiful for their needs, but as previously discussed I should imagine that most students will come from out of the area and will need to be driven to school.
10.I do NOT believe that the parents will have SAFE, EFFICIENT ACCESS to the Council carpark.
There is a proposed shared bike path/pedestrian path to be built on the northern Pacific Highway pavement just outside the school.
The traffic starts to build up from 6.30am with the transit lane crowded with buses and cars. As the bus stop before the Council carpark is at Westbourne Street it gives the buses a chance to move quickly down the Highway and if they proceed through the Greenwich Road lights without stopping they can gather quite a bit of speed. Cars slowing to enter the carpark will need to indicate their turn very early as the buses will bear down on them quickly and drivers will also need to be mindful of speeding bike riders.
Exiting the carpark will be more dangerous as the cars will need to move across the pavement, bike path and be mindful of buses and cars in the transit lane. The exit is also close to a blind corner.
11. Whether the cars leaving the school return home or continue on to work via Reserve Road, Berry Street or Herbert Street it will add extra pressure to already busy streets, which will only become busier with the new tower developments being built and already approved in St. Leonards. The new Dept. of Health building in Reserve Road will bring many more cars to that street and if the Willoughby Council proceeds with a new sporting venue on the corner of Reserve Road and the Pacific Highway it will, at times, make it a very busy road.
Berry Street is busy Monday to Friday with people bringing elderly patients for diagnostic imaging and medical appointments at the 2 hospitals or the Medical Centre. This area has limited access and egress and there is a proposal for increased height and density. The roundabout necessary to make the turning is very small.
Herbert Street has ongoing problems in the morning with traffic as the pedestrian crossing to the hospital slows the traffic, to the point of stopping the flow.
12. I do not believe that the applicant has stated what use will be made of the area out of hours or the weekend and where the parking for any function will be.
13. It doesn't state why this school was not teamed with the Lindfield School - one would think that it would have been a better option.
14. Is there a canteen or even a kitchen in the design?
15. The school will require permanent lighting and airconditioning on the ground floor of the building. The windows will need to be closed against the noise and pollution of the Pacific Highway and therefore there will be no cross ventilation. The ground floor is, at present, very dark and with the addition of partitions will become darker - therefore requiring permanent lighting.
There is no separate hall or library in the building - I suppose that walls will concertina, but will this happen. I would have thought this type of private school would offer music as a subject, but there does not appear to be a music room.
There is no future flexibility as this site will be more than 100% used.
16. There does not appear to be any plan for deliveries. Where would these deliveries be made to. Would the trucks be traversing the carpark? What time would deliveries be made.
17. If a public address system and school bells are permitted to be relayed to outside it could be very annoying to the residents of the surrounding high rise buildings. These are sounds that carry through the area.
18. The proposal was originally put in for an office, with which the community was happy, however it is a big jump from an office to a school and the application is opaque.
For all the above reasons I object to State Significant Development Application 10260 (SSD-10260) - International Chinese School at 211 Pacific Highway, St. Leonards.
I have not made any reportable political donations in the previous two years.
Helen Pearson
3403/1 Sergeants Lane,
St. Leonards . 2065.
Monday 28th October, 2019 . (Extension of time given by Dimitri Gotsis,Senior Planner, Social and Other Infrastructure Assessments - Priority Projects. to 29th October, 2019)
1. I object to the proposal.
2. This is an unsuitable site for a school. This site is still designated as a cemetery and is of Heritage importance. The Avenue will be destroyed and the lovely heritage brick wall and gate (although now dangerously leaning) will be destroyed in the building of a new 2m+high metal fence. If this brick wall is taken down the bricks should be used in the driveway instead of modern pavers, or sold to the Brick Pit.- the same applies to the heavy iron gate (in the north facing brick wall) which should be kept and used in a public place - not souvenired by a contractor or passing pedestrian.
3. This is a PRIVATE school and is NOT A NEW SCHOOL, but one that is transferring from Chatswood. The community has long argued the need for 1 or 2 new PUBLIC schools in the area to cater for the increased residential population. The Dept. of Planning has told us that a NEW school requires 2HA. As St. Leonards and surrounds have become so crowded the community groups have been requesting more open space be provided with this huge push for development. In the Lane Cove, Willoughby and North Sydney Council area the developers seem to use Gore Hill Oval in their calculations as open space for all of their developments. The Community wants meaningful green open space and thought that Willoughby Council had achieved this with Gore Hill Oval . It is not clear how much this school development would disadvantage the local community.
4. The SITE IS TOO SMALL to house 210 children + staff. Will the school have to pay a fair and reasonable rent to the Landlord? who is paying for the building - the government, Council or the school?
5. Although the Headmaster says that there are other schools situated on the Pacific Highway I do not believe that any other school is as close as this proposed school to the Pacific Highway and the NOISE EXPERIENCED will be great as the many buses, construction trucks, delivery trucks thunder past.
6. The application does not really say how much they will use the public oval and play area but state that they will be off the oval by 12pm. I have twice been over to the oval between 10am and 11.30am and at these times the carpark has been close to full and on the first visit there were about 20 young women with children and on the 2nd time there were about 12 adults plus children in the playground and the netball court area. There were several people on the basketball court and moving around the oval. I should imagine that the mothers would by 12pm leave the area to take their young children home for lunch and a sleep. Will these young parents be unable to use the park facilities before 12pm? They need to park as they told me that they come quite a distance to meet at the park. This is the time that fits in with the children's sleeping schedule.
I have observed from my apartment that a lot of people come from the hospital and use the oval, hard surface and playground and it is used as a short cut to Westbourne Avenue from the station. Will all of these people be unable to use the area?
7. If there is intention for the school children to use the oval/playground from 11am to 12pm would this necessitate the use of the public toilets by the children? Who pays for this usage - we the ratepayers? Who supervises the children? Will their be need for another high fence around the area used by the school? If a child is hurt on the play equipment or the hard surface area who is responsible - Council or school?
8. The application states that the children will spend recess on the small area between the building and the Avenue. This area is dominated by what I think is a magnificent Morton Bay Fig which is looking decidely "sick" as the moment. The area of the tree has been fenced but something is causing this tree to be stressed. I don't think that the landscape plan for this play area has noted this tree and wonder whether it has been marked for destruction. There does not appear to be any seating in the area which is possibly good as the children should be playing - but I doubt whether there is sufficient space in this area for 210 children + supervisors.
9. Public transport in the area will be plentiful for their needs, but as previously discussed I should imagine that most students will come from out of the area and will need to be driven to school.
10.I do NOT believe that the parents will have SAFE, EFFICIENT ACCESS to the Council carpark.
There is a proposed shared bike path/pedestrian path to be built on the northern Pacific Highway pavement just outside the school.
The traffic starts to build up from 6.30am with the transit lane crowded with buses and cars. As the bus stop before the Council carpark is at Westbourne Street it gives the buses a chance to move quickly down the Highway and if they proceed through the Greenwich Road lights without stopping they can gather quite a bit of speed. Cars slowing to enter the carpark will need to indicate their turn very early as the buses will bear down on them quickly and drivers will also need to be mindful of speeding bike riders.
Exiting the carpark will be more dangerous as the cars will need to move across the pavement, bike path and be mindful of buses and cars in the transit lane. The exit is also close to a blind corner.
11. Whether the cars leaving the school return home or continue on to work via Reserve Road, Berry Street or Herbert Street it will add extra pressure to already busy streets, which will only become busier with the new tower developments being built and already approved in St. Leonards. The new Dept. of Health building in Reserve Road will bring many more cars to that street and if the Willoughby Council proceeds with a new sporting venue on the corner of Reserve Road and the Pacific Highway it will, at times, make it a very busy road.
Berry Street is busy Monday to Friday with people bringing elderly patients for diagnostic imaging and medical appointments at the 2 hospitals or the Medical Centre. This area has limited access and egress and there is a proposal for increased height and density. The roundabout necessary to make the turning is very small.
Herbert Street has ongoing problems in the morning with traffic as the pedestrian crossing to the hospital slows the traffic, to the point of stopping the flow.
12. I do not believe that the applicant has stated what use will be made of the area out of hours or the weekend and where the parking for any function will be.
13. It doesn't state why this school was not teamed with the Lindfield School - one would think that it would have been a better option.
14. Is there a canteen or even a kitchen in the design?
15. The school will require permanent lighting and airconditioning on the ground floor of the building. The windows will need to be closed against the noise and pollution of the Pacific Highway and therefore there will be no cross ventilation. The ground floor is, at present, very dark and with the addition of partitions will become darker - therefore requiring permanent lighting.
There is no separate hall or library in the building - I suppose that walls will concertina, but will this happen. I would have thought this type of private school would offer music as a subject, but there does not appear to be a music room.
There is no future flexibility as this site will be more than 100% used.
16. There does not appear to be any plan for deliveries. Where would these deliveries be made to. Would the trucks be traversing the carpark? What time would deliveries be made.
17. If a public address system and school bells are permitted to be relayed to outside it could be very annoying to the residents of the surrounding high rise buildings. These are sounds that carry through the area.
18. The proposal was originally put in for an office, with which the community was happy, however it is a big jump from an office to a school and the application is opaque.
For all the above reasons I object to State Significant Development Application 10260 (SSD-10260) - International Chinese School at 211 Pacific Highway, St. Leonards.
I have not made any reportable political donations in the previous two years.
Helen Pearson
3403/1 Sergeants Lane,
St. Leonards . 2065.
Monday 28th October, 2019 . (Extension of time given by Dimitri Gotsis,Senior Planner, Social and Other Infrastructure Assessments - Priority Projects. to 29th October, 2019)
Helen Pearson
Object
Helen Pearson
Object
st leonards
,
Message
STATE SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION 10260 (SSD-10260) - International Chinese School at 211 Pacific Highway, St. Leonards.
1. I object to the proposal.
2. This is an unsuitable site for a school. This site is still designated as a cemetery and is of Heritage importance. The Avenue will be destroyed and the lovely heritage brick wall and gate (although now dangerously leaning) will be destroyed in the building of a new 2m+high metal fence. If this brick wall is taken down the bricks should be used in the driveway instead of modern pavers, or sold to the Brick Pit.- the same applies to the heavy iron gate (in the north facing brick wall) which should be kept and used in a public place - not souvenired by a contractor or passing pedestrian.
3. This is a PRIVATE school and is NOT A NEW SCHOOL, but one that is transferring from Chatswood. The community has long argued the need for 1 or 2 new PUBLIC schools in the area to cater for the increased residential population. The Dept. of Planning has told us that a NEW school requires 2HA. As St. Leonards and surrounds have become so crowded the community groups have been requesting more open space be provided with this huge push for development. In the Lane Cove, Willoughby and North Sydney Council area the developers seem to use Gore Hill Oval in their calculations as open space for all of their developments. The Community wants meaningful green open space and thought that Willoughby Council had achieved this with Gore Hill Oval . It is not clear how much this school development would disadvantage the local community.
4. The SITE IS TOO SMALL to house 210 children + staff. Will the school have to pay a fair and reasonable rent to the Landlord? who is paying for the building - the government, Council or the school?
5. Although the Headmaster says that there are other schools situated on the Pacific Highway I do not believe that any other school is as close as this proposed school to the Pacific Highway and the NOISE EXPERIENCED will be great as the many buses, construction trucks, delivery trucks thunder past.
6. The application does not really say how much they will use the public oval and play area but state that they will be off the oval by 12pm. I have twice been over to the oval between 10am and 11.30am and at these times the carpark has been close to full and on the first visit there were about 20 young women with children and on the 2nd time there were about 12 adults plus children in the playground and the netball court area. There were several people on the basketball court and moving around the oval. I should imagine that the mothers would by 12pm leave the area to take their young children home for lunch and a sleep. Will these young parents be unable to use the park facilities before 12pm? They need to park as they told me that they come quite a distance to meet at the park. This is the time that fits in with the children's sleeping schedule.
I have observed from my apartment that a lot of people come from the hospital and use the oval, hard surface and playground and it is used as a short cut to Westbourne Avenue from the station. Will all of these people be unable to use the area?
7. If there is intention for the school children to use the oval/playground from 11am to 12pm would this necessitate the use of the public toilets by the children? Who pays for this usage - we the ratepayers? Who supervises the children? Will their be need for another high fence around the area used by the school? If a child is hurt on the play equipment or the hard surface area who is responsible - Council or school?
8. The application states that the children will spend recess on the small area between the building and the Avenue. This area is dominated by what I think is a magnificent Morton Bay Fig which is looking decidely "sick" as the moment. The area of the tree has been fenced but something is causing this tree to be stressed. I don't think that the landscape plan for this play area has noted this tree and wonder whether it has been marked for destruction. There does not appear to be any seating in the area which is possibly good as the children should be playing - but I doubt whether there is sufficient space in this area for 210 children + supervisors.
9. Public transport in the area will be plentiful for their needs, but as previously discussed I should imagine that most students will come from out of the area and will need to be driven to school.
10.I do NOT believe that the parents will have SAFE, EFFICIENT ACCESS to the Council carpark.
There is a proposed shared bike path/pedestrian path to be built on the northern Pacific Highway pavement just outside the school.
The traffic starts to build up from 6.30am with the transit lane crowded with buses and cars. As the bus stop before the Council carpark is at Westbourne Street it gives the buses a chance to move quickly down the Highway and if they proceed through the Greenwich Road lights without stopping they can gather quite a bit of speed. Cars slowing to enter the carpark will need to indicate their turn very early as the buses will bear down on them quickly and drivers will also need to be mindful of speeding bike riders.
Exiting the carpark will be more dangerous as the cars will need to move across the pavement, bike path and be mindful of buses and cars in the transit lane. The exit is also close to a blind corner.
11. Whether the cars leaving the school return home or continue on to work via Reserve Road, Berry Street or Herbert Street it will add extra pressure to already busy streets, which will only become busier with the new tower developments being built and already approved in St. Leonards. The new Dept. of Health building in Reserve Road will bring many more cars to that street and if the Willoughby Council proceeds with a new sporting venue on the corner of Reserve Road and the Pacific Highway it will, at times, make it a very busy road.
Berry Street is busy Monday to Friday with people bringing elderly patients for diagnostic imaging and medical appointments at the 2 hospitals or the Medical Centre. This area has limited access and egress and there is a proposal for increased height and density. The roundabout necessary to make the turning is very small.
Herbert Street has ongoing problems in the morning with traffic as the pedestrian crossing to the hospital slows the traffic, to the point of stopping the flow.
12. I do not believe that the applicant has stated what use will be made of the area out of hours or the weekend and where the parking for any function will be.
13. It doesn't state why this school was not teamed with the Lindfield School - one would think that it would have been a better option.
14. Is there a canteen or even a kitchen in the design?
15. The school will require permanent lighting and airconditioning on the ground floor of the building. The windows will need to be closed against the noise and pollution of the Pacific Highway and therefore there will be no cross ventilation. The ground floor is, at present, very dark and with the addition of partitions will become darker - therefore requiring permanent lighting.
There is no separate hall or library in the building - I suppose that walls will concertina, but will this happen. I would have thought this type of private school would offer music as a subject, but there does not appear to be a music room.
There is no future flexibility as this site will be more than 100% used.
16. There does not appear to be any plan for deliveries. Where would these deliveries be made to. Would the trucks be traversing the carpark? What time would deliveries be made.
17. If a public address system and school bells are permitted to be relayed to outside it could be very annoying to the residents of the surrounding high rise buildings. These are sounds that carry through the area.
18. The proposal was originally put in for an office, with which the community was happy, however it is a big jump from an office to a school and the application is opaque.
For all the above reasons I object to State Significant Development Application 10260 (SSD-10260) - International Chinese School at 211 Pacific Highway, St. Leonards.
I have not made any reportable political donations in the previous two years.
Helen Pearson
3403/1 Sergeants Lane,
St. Leonards . 2065.
Monday 28th October, 2019 . (Extension of time given by Dimitri Gotsis,Senior Planner, Social and Other Infrastructure Assessments - Priority Projects. to 29th October, 2019)
1. I object to the proposal.
2. This is an unsuitable site for a school. This site is still designated as a cemetery and is of Heritage importance. The Avenue will be destroyed and the lovely heritage brick wall and gate (although now dangerously leaning) will be destroyed in the building of a new 2m+high metal fence. If this brick wall is taken down the bricks should be used in the driveway instead of modern pavers, or sold to the Brick Pit.- the same applies to the heavy iron gate (in the north facing brick wall) which should be kept and used in a public place - not souvenired by a contractor or passing pedestrian.
3. This is a PRIVATE school and is NOT A NEW SCHOOL, but one that is transferring from Chatswood. The community has long argued the need for 1 or 2 new PUBLIC schools in the area to cater for the increased residential population. The Dept. of Planning has told us that a NEW school requires 2HA. As St. Leonards and surrounds have become so crowded the community groups have been requesting more open space be provided with this huge push for development. In the Lane Cove, Willoughby and North Sydney Council area the developers seem to use Gore Hill Oval in their calculations as open space for all of their developments. The Community wants meaningful green open space and thought that Willoughby Council had achieved this with Gore Hill Oval . It is not clear how much this school development would disadvantage the local community.
4. The SITE IS TOO SMALL to house 210 children + staff. Will the school have to pay a fair and reasonable rent to the Landlord? who is paying for the building - the government, Council or the school?
5. Although the Headmaster says that there are other schools situated on the Pacific Highway I do not believe that any other school is as close as this proposed school to the Pacific Highway and the NOISE EXPERIENCED will be great as the many buses, construction trucks, delivery trucks thunder past.
6. The application does not really say how much they will use the public oval and play area but state that they will be off the oval by 12pm. I have twice been over to the oval between 10am and 11.30am and at these times the carpark has been close to full and on the first visit there were about 20 young women with children and on the 2nd time there were about 12 adults plus children in the playground and the netball court area. There were several people on the basketball court and moving around the oval. I should imagine that the mothers would by 12pm leave the area to take their young children home for lunch and a sleep. Will these young parents be unable to use the park facilities before 12pm? They need to park as they told me that they come quite a distance to meet at the park. This is the time that fits in with the children's sleeping schedule.
I have observed from my apartment that a lot of people come from the hospital and use the oval, hard surface and playground and it is used as a short cut to Westbourne Avenue from the station. Will all of these people be unable to use the area?
7. If there is intention for the school children to use the oval/playground from 11am to 12pm would this necessitate the use of the public toilets by the children? Who pays for this usage - we the ratepayers? Who supervises the children? Will their be need for another high fence around the area used by the school? If a child is hurt on the play equipment or the hard surface area who is responsible - Council or school?
8. The application states that the children will spend recess on the small area between the building and the Avenue. This area is dominated by what I think is a magnificent Morton Bay Fig which is looking decidely "sick" as the moment. The area of the tree has been fenced but something is causing this tree to be stressed. I don't think that the landscape plan for this play area has noted this tree and wonder whether it has been marked for destruction. There does not appear to be any seating in the area which is possibly good as the children should be playing - but I doubt whether there is sufficient space in this area for 210 children + supervisors.
9. Public transport in the area will be plentiful for their needs, but as previously discussed I should imagine that most students will come from out of the area and will need to be driven to school.
10.I do NOT believe that the parents will have SAFE, EFFICIENT ACCESS to the Council carpark.
There is a proposed shared bike path/pedestrian path to be built on the northern Pacific Highway pavement just outside the school.
The traffic starts to build up from 6.30am with the transit lane crowded with buses and cars. As the bus stop before the Council carpark is at Westbourne Street it gives the buses a chance to move quickly down the Highway and if they proceed through the Greenwich Road lights without stopping they can gather quite a bit of speed. Cars slowing to enter the carpark will need to indicate their turn very early as the buses will bear down on them quickly and drivers will also need to be mindful of speeding bike riders.
Exiting the carpark will be more dangerous as the cars will need to move across the pavement, bike path and be mindful of buses and cars in the transit lane. The exit is also close to a blind corner.
11. Whether the cars leaving the school return home or continue on to work via Reserve Road, Berry Street or Herbert Street it will add extra pressure to already busy streets, which will only become busier with the new tower developments being built and already approved in St. Leonards. The new Dept. of Health building in Reserve Road will bring many more cars to that street and if the Willoughby Council proceeds with a new sporting venue on the corner of Reserve Road and the Pacific Highway it will, at times, make it a very busy road.
Berry Street is busy Monday to Friday with people bringing elderly patients for diagnostic imaging and medical appointments at the 2 hospitals or the Medical Centre. This area has limited access and egress and there is a proposal for increased height and density. The roundabout necessary to make the turning is very small.
Herbert Street has ongoing problems in the morning with traffic as the pedestrian crossing to the hospital slows the traffic, to the point of stopping the flow.
12. I do not believe that the applicant has stated what use will be made of the area out of hours or the weekend and where the parking for any function will be.
13. It doesn't state why this school was not teamed with the Lindfield School - one would think that it would have been a better option.
14. Is there a canteen or even a kitchen in the design?
15. The school will require permanent lighting and airconditioning on the ground floor of the building. The windows will need to be closed against the noise and pollution of the Pacific Highway and therefore there will be no cross ventilation. The ground floor is, at present, very dark and with the addition of partitions will become darker - therefore requiring permanent lighting.
There is no separate hall or library in the building - I suppose that walls will concertina, but will this happen. I would have thought this type of private school would offer music as a subject, but there does not appear to be a music room.
There is no future flexibility as this site will be more than 100% used.
16. There does not appear to be any plan for deliveries. Where would these deliveries be made to. Would the trucks be traversing the carpark? What time would deliveries be made.
17. If a public address system and school bells are permitted to be relayed to outside it could be very annoying to the residents of the surrounding high rise buildings. These are sounds that carry through the area.
18. The proposal was originally put in for an office, with which the community was happy, however it is a big jump from an office to a school and the application is opaque.
For all the above reasons I object to State Significant Development Application 10260 (SSD-10260) - International Chinese School at 211 Pacific Highway, St. Leonards.
I have not made any reportable political donations in the previous two years.
Helen Pearson
3403/1 Sergeants Lane,
St. Leonards . 2065.
Monday 28th October, 2019 . (Extension of time given by Dimitri Gotsis,Senior Planner, Social and Other Infrastructure Assessments - Priority Projects. to 29th October, 2019)
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Greenwich
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Dear Minister and Planning Department
I ask that the SSD 10260 for the International Chinese School is rejected.
I am a senior citizen and this development will affect me and my views have not been considered.
As a senior citizen I find this development unreasonable as it takes away amenities and facilities that I rely upon. This development will make living in St Leonards more challenging.
We already have enough high density in this part of the St Leonards which even affects the Greenwich area and many other streets. More high rise developments will result in more pressure on facilities. Amenities will be greatly reduced and when amenities are lost they are lost forever.
Public transport such as trains and buses do not serve the area well and are full at peak times. The new Metro in Crows Nest is insufficient to cope with the increase in the high density already planned as it is farther away for us and it can hardly manage to deal with the current overcrowding. The State government will not be able to resolve all these issues and the residents (especially the elderly residents) will be severely disadvantaged. So we will have to endure reduced services for a long time.
The process of consultation is invalid and we have the right to make further submissions. The development plans presented still have a number of issues and do not address the underlying problems that the community is facing.
I currently live in a community where I walk around I hear the residents expressing outcry over this development.
As a senior citizen I find this plan is ridiculous as it takes away amenities and facilities that I rely upon. There are narrow sidewalks, unsafe and hazardous streets with traffic and cars. This plan will not improve this but make it worst.
Every day I have to cautiously manoeuvre the peak morning traffic of cars and pedestrians with narrow badly surfaced sidewalks.
We already have enough high density in the St Leonards area which even affects Greenwich area. Our streets cannot support the additional traffic. Just try to drive on Berry Road or Pacific Highway in the morning. It is a line of parked cars!
There are no other real outlets from Berry Road and the streets surrounding are always not easy to walk along.
The streets and the Pacific Highway are heavily congested at times daily under the best of circumstances. The traffic is always bad. All the people in my street and the people I know have 2 cars in their house. This will make traffic even worst. There is no good solution offered to resolve these issues in this plan.
The fire department could be blocked and emergency response to the area delayed due to additional traffic and more cars. Also delays in emergency response to the schools and other neighbour hoods.
Trains and buses do not serve the area well and are full at peak times. The State government will not likely be able to resolve all these issues, as you claim.
The Gore Hill memorial Cemetery was established since 1868 is one of the oldest and largest remaining cemeteries in metropolitan Sydney a National Heritage Site. We should be working on the preservation of the spiritual, historical and social significance of the cemetery not building a school on top of it. The school will affect the importance and standing of the heritage status in the community.
There are other concerns and some of these are:
1) increasing congestion at a bottleneck as all streets have limited access routes
2) increasing parking congestion in the area including the very real possibility of blocking entrances of on a daily basis
3) given that the additional traffic will increase the likelihood of an accident involving a child on one of the safe routes to school
4) More noise, odour and dust form the additional vehicles and buses to cater for the extra density
5) more and more people use cars and car companies studies is proof of this
6) amenities will be greatly reduced and when amenities are lost they are lost forever
7) there are not enough parks and play grounds in the area
8) open space is decreasing
There will be more cars from the School especially service and utility cars as well as visitors and this plan does not consider the impact of more people.
There are not enough large open parks and places for recreation in our area. Every morning mothers with small children walking children in strollers in the street, as well as dog owners walking their dogs and many children on Bicycles compete with many cars for the space. Now multiply this with more cars and people due to more high density.
I think it is time for the Minister to think of the long term effects on the residents
Therefore please reject this development.
Please confirm that my objection was included in the SSD.
Yours faithfully
Afaf Audi
Senior Citizen
Portview Road, Greenwich
[email protected]
I ask that the SSD 10260 for the International Chinese School is rejected.
I am a senior citizen and this development will affect me and my views have not been considered.
As a senior citizen I find this development unreasonable as it takes away amenities and facilities that I rely upon. This development will make living in St Leonards more challenging.
We already have enough high density in this part of the St Leonards which even affects the Greenwich area and many other streets. More high rise developments will result in more pressure on facilities. Amenities will be greatly reduced and when amenities are lost they are lost forever.
Public transport such as trains and buses do not serve the area well and are full at peak times. The new Metro in Crows Nest is insufficient to cope with the increase in the high density already planned as it is farther away for us and it can hardly manage to deal with the current overcrowding. The State government will not be able to resolve all these issues and the residents (especially the elderly residents) will be severely disadvantaged. So we will have to endure reduced services for a long time.
The process of consultation is invalid and we have the right to make further submissions. The development plans presented still have a number of issues and do not address the underlying problems that the community is facing.
I currently live in a community where I walk around I hear the residents expressing outcry over this development.
As a senior citizen I find this plan is ridiculous as it takes away amenities and facilities that I rely upon. There are narrow sidewalks, unsafe and hazardous streets with traffic and cars. This plan will not improve this but make it worst.
Every day I have to cautiously manoeuvre the peak morning traffic of cars and pedestrians with narrow badly surfaced sidewalks.
We already have enough high density in the St Leonards area which even affects Greenwich area. Our streets cannot support the additional traffic. Just try to drive on Berry Road or Pacific Highway in the morning. It is a line of parked cars!
There are no other real outlets from Berry Road and the streets surrounding are always not easy to walk along.
The streets and the Pacific Highway are heavily congested at times daily under the best of circumstances. The traffic is always bad. All the people in my street and the people I know have 2 cars in their house. This will make traffic even worst. There is no good solution offered to resolve these issues in this plan.
The fire department could be blocked and emergency response to the area delayed due to additional traffic and more cars. Also delays in emergency response to the schools and other neighbour hoods.
Trains and buses do not serve the area well and are full at peak times. The State government will not likely be able to resolve all these issues, as you claim.
The Gore Hill memorial Cemetery was established since 1868 is one of the oldest and largest remaining cemeteries in metropolitan Sydney a National Heritage Site. We should be working on the preservation of the spiritual, historical and social significance of the cemetery not building a school on top of it. The school will affect the importance and standing of the heritage status in the community.
There are other concerns and some of these are:
1) increasing congestion at a bottleneck as all streets have limited access routes
2) increasing parking congestion in the area including the very real possibility of blocking entrances of on a daily basis
3) given that the additional traffic will increase the likelihood of an accident involving a child on one of the safe routes to school
4) More noise, odour and dust form the additional vehicles and buses to cater for the extra density
5) more and more people use cars and car companies studies is proof of this
6) amenities will be greatly reduced and when amenities are lost they are lost forever
7) there are not enough parks and play grounds in the area
8) open space is decreasing
There will be more cars from the School especially service and utility cars as well as visitors and this plan does not consider the impact of more people.
There are not enough large open parks and places for recreation in our area. Every morning mothers with small children walking children in strollers in the street, as well as dog owners walking their dogs and many children on Bicycles compete with many cars for the space. Now multiply this with more cars and people due to more high density.
I think it is time for the Minister to think of the long term effects on the residents
Therefore please reject this development.
Please confirm that my objection was included in the SSD.
Yours faithfully
Afaf Audi
Senior Citizen
Portview Road, Greenwich
[email protected]