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Name Withheld
Object
Kirribilli , New South Wales
Message
I would like to oppose the planned development of St Aloysius school as
the scale will no doubt badly impact on need for access, traffic and
noise.

Being a peninsular area there is no way to cater for increased traffic
and the plans for the development show a lack of care for parking
supply for staff parking, let alone parents and visitors. Also the
increased time scale for pick ups and drop offs for parents, will add
to congestion and the fact that there will be an outdoor theatre and
roof area for socialising and free time will increase the noise.

Just a bit further down the road Loreto also has plans for huge
developments which will cause the same problems. These streets area
already grid locked around the times of school runs. This competition
to increase the facilities to resort level is causing a creep effect
within this neighbourhood. The area is not suitable for mega schools
and perhaps the schools should consider a land swap deal or another
campus where they will have room and not have the issue of quiet local
residents to consider.

Both Loreto and St Aloysius have been noted in the national press.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/sydney-s-top-private-schools-reveal-extravagant-new-building-plans-20180223-p4z1ek.html

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/when-schools-look-like-resorts-questions-about-funding-must-be-asked-20180221-p4z14r.html

We were told that the plans shown at the recent residents meeting were
not accurate, to scale or definitive, so I also oppose going ahead
with a decision when there is a lack of transparency and information.
Also this is extremely late to let the community know about their
intentions, and an application of this magnitude should have been
considered not st planning stage, but at the original policy stage.

Also, given that these schools are faith based I find if a great shame
that they have taken no steps to embrace the local community members
or show any provision for how we might use the schools facilities, for
example when the are less used during holiday periods. This is a
Catholic school is in receipt of large public funds, and yet I feel
they are turning their backs on the local community.

The impact of the proposed works will overshadow the existing building
vernacular and aesthetics in terms of both mass and density. The plans
seemed disproportionate to the local existing built forms and may well
strike many intrusions on the skyline. If this is allowed to go ahead,
it may well set a precedent and start a trend and pave the way for
other mass projects sited in this vicinity.
Geoffrey Mc Girr
Object
KIRRIBILLI , New South Wales
Message
Re: Proposed Development St Aloysius College Kirribilli
SSD 8669

I submit the following concerns against this development.

1. Vehicle movement on completion.
(a) At present, parents dropping off/collecting children cause
congestion at the entrance to the college in Upper Pitt Street.
(b) My parking space opposite the school is regularly used by parents
either dropping off or picking up their children.
(c) What provision, if any, is there in the proposed development plan
to overcome this problem?
2. I am greatly concerned with the prospect of additional noise from
the changes to the present rooftop area.
3. Due to the present top deck area now becoming a play/entertainment
area I am concerned with the loss of my privacy.
4. The proposed development will also have a dramatic effect on my
views.


Geoffrey McGirr
31/48 Upper Pitt Street, Kirribilli.
Barbara Sestan
Object
Kirribilli , New South Wales
Message
There is a serious lack of parking space on Upper Pitt St and the
surrounding streets.
I do not drive to areas such as the Ensemble Theatre due to lack of
parking there and lack of parking near home upon my return.
Once I have walking disability, I will become housebound.
As it is I am considering having groceries delivered as I often cannot
park nearby to bring them into my home from the car.
Visitors also face this problem, as do service companies, workmen etc.
College parking needs to be provided for Teachers & senior students.
Ray Caldwell
Object
Kirribilli , New South Wales
Message
My understanding is that there is a limited number of parking spaces (17)
currently available within the schools grounds for staff and student
parking. It seems that many of the staff and students who choose to
drive to the school, park in the surrounding streets during the day.
This limits the availability of on-street parking for residents,
visitors and trades people.

I am concerned that the proposed redevelopment will put additional
pressure on the local roads and make on-street parking even more
challenging during school days and when other events are held on the
premises.

While I generally support the improvements to the school facilities, I
believe the proposal should look to provide more onsite parking
facilities.
Name Withheld
Object
Kirribilli , New South Wales
Message
The lack of any planning for of street parking for both teachers and
students by the school. Parking is always at a premium in Kirribilli
but especially so around St Aloysius' College during the school
semesters. I not only pay my council rates but purchase the additional
council parking cards for my guests but both of these charges do not
assure me of a parking spots in my own street during the day-indeed
some of my guests have had to park in Milsons Point when calling in.
The overcrowded street parking makes it difficult for older members of
our community to park close to home if they have been shopping and are
often in need of assistance when forced to park further afield. I have
seen near accidents occur due to delivery vans and removalist vans
being forced to double park while making their deliveries.No modern
building nor indeed the redevelopment of an existing building be
allowed to go ahead without off street parking so why is an exception
being made for this wealthy school. I feel the school needs to
reassess its future plans keeping in mind the growing stresses on the
community around it.
Name Withheld
Object
Kirribilli , New South Wales
Message
I object to this proposal, as it leads to residents cross subsidising the
school's infrastructure costs through not having to build a car park
to accommodate teachers, students who bring a car, and various support
services personnel.

I understand that the School has around 20 internal carspots, and
around 130 teachers. I understand approximately 70 teachers bring a
car to school. On a quick count, this number of cars takes up both
sides of one major street in Kirribilli (eg Upper Pitt Street).

This has the result of residents currently having huge difficulties in
finding car parking, let alone visitors who wish to park and see
residents who live in the area. As an example of the impact of this,
one of our neighbours in her 70s does not have a private car spot, and
frequently has to park far away and thus is seen carting large
shopping bags a long way away up the street to her apartment
(residents help her if we are around).

With proposed development, the number of students will not increase -
however due to bigger & configurable 'learning spaces' there will most
likely be many more 'learning support staff' in addition to the 130
teachers (eg sport coaches, relaxation guides, music teachers, special
guests etc etc). In short, during school days, there will likely be
about 200 cars needing parking.

Other schools provide their own parking (even Loretto). St Aloysius
School is using the residents to subsidise their infrastructure costs
by enabling them to avoid having to build a car park (instead:
underground in one area, a basketball court is proposed!).

I fail to understand why residents should be so cross-subsidising the
school's infrastructure costs. The School should be forced to provide
parking as part of their infrastructure costs, and not at the cost of
the local community.
Claudia Rososinski
Object
KIRRIBILLi , New South Wales
Message
I am writing to express my objection to the proposed redevelopment of St.
Aloysius College.

The size and duration of the project is unbelievably disruptive to an
otherwise quiet and peaceful suburb. This will no doubt affect the
quality of life of all nearby residents. I worry in particular for the
congestion on the streets and the safety and cleanliness of cars that
are parked outdoors (as there will be lots of trucks, tradespeople and
dust). Since I have been living here there have been many minor
constructions and they all cause frustration and in particular noise
pollution at unholy hours.

The well being of the students will also be in jeopardy due to the
increased traffic and presence of hazardous conditions.
Once this project is complete, in an estimated seven years (and
projects more often than not run over time). The shadow from the
building would affect my apartment and I would not get as much morning
sun. The proposed roof top playgrounds will inhibit the tranquillity
as the students' noise during playtime will easily carry over.

Should this project go ahead, I will definitely look at moving to a
different suburb.

Many thanks,

Claudia
Name Withheld
Object
KIRRIBILLI , New South Wales
Message
I wish to register my objection to the proposed redevelopment of St
Aloysius College (SAC) Kirribilli. I live in Kirribilli Avenue to east
of SAC my objection to the proposal are summarised in the following
points;

Lack of provision of `on-site' parking for staff and visitors in the
final plan
Current detail of staffing and visitors are not supplied but I am
aware there is very limited on-site parking at SAC provided for those
visiting the area be they staff or other. Parking is a scarce resource
in our area and I am of the view that with any changes to the school
parking must be considered.
I am reliably informed that many staff drive to the area park in the
surrounding streets. During the course of the day cars are
periodically moved swapping parking positions with each other.
Effectively `gaming' the system and hogging local parking. This is
unfair to bona fide visitors and local residents.

Jeffery Street is currently used as a `drop off & pick up' zone
morning and afternoons for students. This illegal and poses an
unacceptable risk to all in the area - double parking is not uncommon.
This development needs to incorporate adequate on-site space where
this can occur safely and legally.

Not only are spaces scarce they are a valuable commodity I recall one
selling recently in this area for $120,000.00.

Lack of parking during demolishion and construction
Will on-site parking be provided to construction workers? I cannot
find any literature outlining this. Trades people require tools etc.
It is unrealistic to expect many workers to use public transport. Our
streets are already at capacity. With the introduction of `work zone'
parking areas bona fide residents and visitors will be disadvantaged.

An excessive period for the work to be completed over
One figure suggests that the redevelopment may be conducted over a
number of years. I find this totally unacceptable. The impact of daily
noise, increased traffic and general disruption needs to be minimal
for residents. Information suggests that SAC will continue to operate
during construction which logically will prolong the process. I
suggest SAC be closed and students moved offsite so that the
redevelopment can be completed in the shortest possible time and the
least impact on the local community.

St Ignatius College at Riverview is administered by the same religious
order and as you may or may not be aware has ample space to cater for
a short term solution.

Increased traffic and vehicles being parked in Kirribilli Avenue
during demolition and construction
Kirribilli Avenue, Upper Pitt Street, Fitzroy Street and Carabella
Street are not equipped to deal with large levels of heavy vehicle.
They are all narrow streets that struggle to cope with current traffic
flow. A project of this size will require careful planning in order to
cater for increased heavy vehicles.

The increase in cars coming into the area carrying workers will have a
negative impact on local residents as well, the creation of `work
zone' parking and general private vehicle are all leading to a
terrible situation for locals.

Make no mistake SAC is a multimillion dollar business. It makes a
profit. One of their business gaols is to purchase real estate around
the school area. This proposal detracts from the neighbourhood feel of
the Kirribilli. It occurs to me that SAC could be using their `school'
status to get this redevelopment plan across the line. Closing the
school whilst the development is done is a must as is perhaps spending
more to provide sufficient space for parking and school traffic. The
school is no longer run by clergy; it is a sophisticated business with
an administrative team with financial and business plans.

A number of questions that puts this application into context :
Would the school object if a large neighbouring block to them applied
for permission to demolish and rebuilt over several years housing
several hundred occupants and provide no parking would the school
object?

If a large supermarket, hardware or retail store apply to build in the
Kirribilli area would approval be granted with provision for little or
no parking in the plan?

Has SAC explored the option of purchasing a second campus nearer to
their student residential base rather than developing their current
scarce resource? This could be funded by selling some of their many
Kirribilli assets.

I request that this application be reviewed in the context of its
necessity, alternate option and impact on the local area over a
prolonged period.
Name Withheld
Comment
Kirribilli , New South Wales
Message
I have owned and or lived in xxx Fitzroy Street for almost 50 years.
There have been many changes and traffic is a major issue, the other
is the changing urban amenity of my surroundings.

My rear aspect is over Blight Street and the mature gum trees that
make up the canopy down Blight street are integral to maintaining the
amenity of this micro eco system which also includes me.

I am not against the school upgrading it's facilities but they must
work within the bounds of the existing natural assets which include
three existing lemon scented gums marked 54,55, and 57 on the
landscape concept plans. I am most concerned that the plans note that
these trees are at risk from the proposed development. If the risk is
a known then the design must be such that the trees are carefully
engineered into any future proposal not potentially engineered out.
The teachers and boys come and go but us residents are part of the
environmental mix on a more permanent basis and as such our needs
should also be accommodated.
Lyn Brentnall
Object
26 fitzroy st kirribilli , New South Wales
Message
In regard to summission for work on jr school in Bligh st kirribilli
I have lived here for 22yrs now and have never complanned about noise,
balls in gutters etc. extra buildings
The building is getting bigger and im very against the removal of
trees in bligh street, especially 55 , which give me a nice leafy view
from my louge room, if it is removal i will be looking at more bricks
and fences . As i didnt object the grandstand seating beside the the
basketball court , which cutes out my nth sydney view. Some trees have
been planted , but are not watered.
I highly object the removal of 54, 55 and 57.

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